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color:#1F497D'>Regardless of how we get the technologies to work with each
other, from an adoption perspective it seems like we do need to have a clear
and consistent message on how RPs and end users can leverage all the benefits
of OpenID, OAuth, WRAP, Portable Contacts, SREG/AX, Activity Streams, etc. in a
robust and reliable way.&nbsp; Facebook has done a great job providing a turnkey
solution for website operators and end users that provides benefits to both
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net
[mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allen Tom<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 15, 2010 10:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> openid-board@lists.openid.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenID board] Adoption: are we ready? (Was: Re: board
Digest, Vol 37, Issue 10)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>As one of the authors of OAuth-WRAP let me
just say that rewriting OpenID as a profile of WRAP is a bad idea, especially
from a marketing and perception perspective. <br>
<br>
However, I do think that we need a way for RPs to access the user&#8217;s data via
API, and some sort of WRAP integration does seem to make sense.<br>
<br>
Allen<br>
<br>
On 1/15/10 8:10 AM, &quot;Chris Messina&quot; &lt;<a
href="chris.messina@gmail.com">chris.messina@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>On
Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:45 AM, daniel jacobson &lt;<a href="fragment37@yahoo.com">fragment37@yahoo.com</a>&gt;
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<br>
<br>
While I'm not about to suggest that we wait for the &quot;perfect&quot;
solution &#8212; I want to be conscious of the cred that could be burned if we
decide, 3-6 months from now, that really OpenID should be rewritten as a
profile of OAuth WRAP (let's just say) and that adoption should really hinge on
getting WRAP out the door and THEN promoting OpenID v.Next on top of it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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