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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>We will be discussing this during today&#8217;s OpenID board meeting,
thanks for forwarding Nat.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:navy'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<b>Cell</b>: 503.866.4424&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <b>Fax</b>: 503.296.5502<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net
[mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nat Sakimura<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 02, 2009 5:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> openid-board; openid-eu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [OpenID board] Fwd: Status of the OpenID Foundation Europe<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Forwarding this message by Robert Ott since it did not seem
to get through to the list somehow.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>=nat<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
From: <b>Robert Ott</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:robert.ott@clavid.com">robert.ott@clavid.com</a>&gt;<br>
Date: Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 4:23 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Status of the OpenID Foundation Europe<br>
To: Nat Sakimura &lt;<a href="mailto:sakimura@gmail.com">sakimura@gmail.com</a>&gt;,
<a href="mailto:openid-board@lists.openid.net">openid-board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
Cc: Snorri Giorgetti &lt;<a href="mailto:snorri.giorgetti@gmail.com">snorri.giorgetti@gmail.com</a>&gt;,
<a href="mailto:openid-eu@lists.openid.net">openid-eu@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<br>
<br>
Hi Nat / OIDF,<br>
<br>
OpenID Europe was mainly managed by Snorri Gioretti. As far as I now, he was/is
officially responsible for managing Europe by the OIDF. At least it states so
at OIDF =&gt; <a href="http://openid.net/foundation/leadership/" target="_blank">http://openid.net/foundation/leadership/</a><br>
<br>
In the past, he did take care of registering the OpenID trademark and domains
in many European countries &nbsp;(such as <a href="http://openideurope.eu"
target="_blank">openideurope.eu</a>). He also appointed the representatives for
the countries stated at the page <a href="http://www.openideurope.eu/team/"
target="_blank">http://www.openideurope.eu/team/</a>. That was great work an I
really appreciate it.<br>
<br>
End of 2008, Snorri got elected to the OIDF board of directors for a 2 years
period in order to represent Europe in OIDF accordingly. Unfortunately, after
he got elected, he almost disappeared from OpenID Europe activities. Nobody was
officially appointed to take over Snorri's activities. I tried to reach him by
E-Mail, Phone, SMS for the last 12 month but unfortunately with no response.
Thus, the current situation is that many people (including me) don't know who
actually manages OpenID Europe and more importantly, who is the owner of the
registered trademarks and the domains such as <a href="http://openideurope.eu"
target="_blank">openideurope.eu</a>? Who has the contact information of all the
European representatives? And so on. I thought Snorri donated everything to
OIDF but I'm not sure about that.<br>
<br>
Does anybody of the board members have contact with Snorri to clarify
responsibilities?<br>
<br>
I could help in bringing the content of <a href="http://openideurope.eu"
target="_blank">openideurope.eu</a> to another site as I do still have read and
write access to the WordPress instance (but no admin rights, unfortunately).
One place where to move it could be <a
href="http://openid.net/foundation/chapters/europe/" target="_blank">http://openid.net/foundation/chapters/europe/</a>
in order to have it in the hands of OIDF. If I can get write access to <a
href="http://openid.net" target="_blank">openid.net</a>, I could take care of
that part.<br>
<br>
I think an important next step should be to appoint somebody from Europe (or a
group of people with clear responsibilities) to take over the OpenID Europe
activities.<br>
<br>
I'm pretty sure that there are a lot of activities here in Europe regarding
OpenID promotion and integration. However, it is probably not widely recognized
on the Internet as it just doesn't get published to a wide audience. OIDF could
be a great platform to do so. I'm sure we all could do better, so lets restart
OpenID Europe!<br>
<br>
But as I mentioned, a first step should be that OIDF clarifies with Snorri the
current status and the appoint appropriate people to take over activities.<br>
<br>
Best Regards<br>
<br>
Robert, OpenID Switzerland<o:p></o:p></p>

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On 25.11.2009, at 18:06, Nat Sakimura wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Hi Robert,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Any news from your side?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =nat<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Jean-Noël Colin &lt;<a
href="mailto:jn.colin@gmail.com">jn.colin@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi Henrik<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I must admit I do share your concerns about openid europe; I haven't seen
much activity around that foundation and was also wondering whether it would be
more appropriate to have one single consolidated foundation, rather than
maintaining an idle one.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Best regards<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Jean-Noel Colin<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On 25 Nov 2009, at 03:06, Henrik Biering wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Hi Snorri,<br>
&gt; &gt; how are you doing? I have not heard anything from you for quite a
long time.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Yesterday, I discovered that the <a href="http://openid.dk"
target="_blank">openid.dk</a> domain registered by OpenID foundation Europe had
expired and had been deactivated.<br>
&gt; &gt; I have now managed to pay the invoice and get the domain reactivated.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; However, I wonder about the situation of OpenID Europe Foundation in
general. You have done an impressive job of aquiring the European and National
Trademarks for OpenID as well as several national OpenID domains on behalf of
the EU foundation, and it would be sad to see the result of these efforts
vanish.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; If there are no resources available to maintain OpenID Foundation
Europe, maybe it is appropriate to consider how this IPR may be consolidated
within the global OpenID Foundation (or alternatively at the national levels).<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Best Regards,<br>
&gt; &gt; Henrik Biering<br>
&gt; &gt; OpenID-DK representative<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; &gt; board mailing list<br>
&gt; &gt; <a href="mailto:board@lists.openid.net">board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
&gt; &gt; <a href="http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board"
target="_blank">http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; board mailing list<br>
&gt; <a href="mailto:board@lists.openid.net">board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
&gt; <a href="http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board"
target="_blank">http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Nat Sakimura (=nat)<br>
&gt; <a href="http://www.sakimura.org/en/" target="_blank">http://www.sakimura.org/en/</a><o:p></o:p></p>

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-- <br>
Nat Sakimura (=nat)<br>
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