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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Here’s my gut feeling on this...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:blue'>I think there is a global OpenID community and on that basis the
board needs global representation on it if possible. I’m not convinced
that trying to build sub-communities on a geographical basis makes much sense
other than:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><span
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:blue'>to organise local events and so on, and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:blue'>to lobby national governments to adopt OpenID (in the way that the
OpenID Foundation and Information Card Foundation have been doing in the US).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:blue'>On that basis, I think that trying to build a European community is
at the wrong level – it’s too broad for both the events and the
lobbying. Building communities at a lower level might work...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:blue'>However, I’m on the advisory board for the Dublin Core
Metadata Initiative which has tried to encourage national affiliates (primarily
as a funding model) with associated national communities and in my experience
it is very hard to get those national communities working properly –
things either happen globally, or they don’t happen at all.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Just my 2c (Euros!).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Hope this helps,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Andy</span><span style='color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Andy Powell</span><span style='color:blue'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Research Programme Director<br>
<b>Eduserv </b></span><b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
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font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>andy.powell@eduserv.org.uk</span></b></a></span><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <br>
01225 474319 / 07989 476710</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:
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style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>efoundations.typepad.com</span></b></a><b><u><o:p></o:p></u></b></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net
[mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jean-Noël
Colin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 05 November 2009 09:52<br>
<b>To:</b> openid-board@lists.openid.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [OpenID board] Some comments about the OpenId Europe and local
representatives<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Dear members of the OpenId board,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I've been nominated in June 2009 as belgian OpenId
representative, and I would like to share a few comments, at least about OpenId
Europe<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'>the OpenId Europe website was last updated in
June, to announce my 'nomination'; previous update was in December 2008.
Does it really make sense to maintain that foundation? I have the feeling
that it gives a bad image of OpenId, at least in Europe, which looks like
a not very lively community<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'>I understand that being OpenId representative
means that I should have a role towards my local community, and I already
had some contacts for that; but shouldn't we also be some kind of relay
between the foundation and the local communities? Shouldn't there be an
top-down information flow? I'm of course following what's happening on the
specs mailing list, but I must admit I don't feel what it's like to be
part of the OpenId community... I renewed my membership to show my
support, but don't really feel part of any real community, which I think
is a bit sad<o:p></o:p></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal>So I would propose two things: assess the real need for the
OpenId Europe community, and put in place some communication flows from the
board towards the local representatives, to give a sense of liveliness to this
community.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Best regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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color:black'>---<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>Prof. Jean-Noël Colin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>Faculty of Computer Science<span class=apple-tab-span> </span>Tel:
+32 (0)81 725274<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>University of Namur<span class=apple-tab-span> </span><a
href="http://info.fundp.ac.be">http://info.fundp.ac.be</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'>Rue Grandgagnage 21<span class=apple-tab-span> </span>Skype:
jn.colin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'>5000 Namur<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>Belgium<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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