Hi Joen, Andy,<div><br></div><div>I must agree with Andy. I don't know why you should feel left out Joen. I think everyone should participate in this OpenId community (and make it one global community).</div><div><br></div>
<div>I can assure you from my experience, (even though i mostly disagree with the views around here), the folks around here are accomodating of people from anywhere, even an obnoxious guy like me :-)</div><div><br></div>
<div>So everyone should feel free to participate here.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Andy Powell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andy.powell@eduserv.org.uk">andy.powell@eduserv.org.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue">Here’s my gut feeling on this...</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue">I think there is a global OpenID community and on that basis the
board needs global representation on it if possible. I’m not convinced
that trying to build sub-communities on a geographical basis makes much sense
other than:</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue"><span>1)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue">to organise local events and so on, and</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue"><span>2)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue">to lobby national governments to adopt OpenID (in the way that the
OpenID Foundation and Information Card Foundation have been doing in the US).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue">On that basis, I think that trying to build a European community is
at the wrong level – it’s too broad for both the events and the
lobbying. Building communities at a lower level might work...</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue">However, I’m on the advisory board for the Dublin Core
Metadata Initiative which has tried to encourage national affiliates (primarily
as a funding model) with associated national communities and in my experience
it is very hard to get those national communities working properly –
things either happen globally, or they don’t happen at all.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue">Just my 2c (Euros!).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue">Hope this helps,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Andy</span><span style="color:blue"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Andy Powell</span><span style="color:blue"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Research Programme Director<br>
<b>Eduserv </b></span><b><span style="font-size:7.5pt;color:black"> </span></b><span style="color:blue"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:blue"><a href="mailto:andy.powell@eduserv.org.uk" target="_blank"><b><span style="font-size:8.0pt">andy.powell@eduserv.org.uk</span></b></a></span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:black"> <br>
01225 474319 / 07989 476710</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:blue"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:blue"><a href="http://efoundations.typepad.com/" target="_blank"><b><span style="font-size:8.0pt">efoundations.typepad.com</span></b></a><b><u></u></b></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jean-Noël
Colin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 05 November 2009 09:52<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:openid-board@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [OpenID board] Some comments about the OpenId Europe and local
representatives</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear members of the OpenId board,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I've been nominated in June 2009 as belgian OpenId
representative, and I would like to share a few comments, at least about OpenId
Europe</p>
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<li class="MsoNormal">the OpenId Europe website was last updated in
June, to announce my 'nomination'; previous update was in December 2008.
Does it really make sense to maintain that foundation? I have the feeling
that it gives a bad image of OpenId, at least in Europe, which looks like
a not very lively community</li>
<li class="MsoNormal">I understand that being OpenId representative
means that I should have a role towards my local community, and I already
had some contacts for that; but shouldn't we also be some kind of relay
between the foundation and the local communities? Shouldn't there be an
top-down information flow? I'm of course following what's happening on the
specs mailing list, but I must admit I don't feel what it's like to be
part of the OpenId community... I renewed my membership to show my
support, but don't really feel part of any real community, which I think
is a bit sad</li>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So I would propose two things: assess the real need for the
OpenId Europe community, and put in place some communication flows from the
board towards the local representatives, to give a sense of liveliness to this
community.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black">Prof. Jean-Noël Colin</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black">Faculty of Computer Science<span> </span>Tel:
+32 (0)81 725274</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black">University of Namur<span> </span><a href="http://info.fundp.ac.be" target="_blank">http://info.fundp.ac.be</a> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black">Rue Grandgagnage 21<span> </span>Skype:
jn.colin</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black">5000 Namur</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black">Belgium</span></p>
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