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On 06/03/2009 12:04 AM, Chris Messina:
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Eddy Nigg
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">However my critic is much
less that, but rather things which should
have been done which were of importance to StartCom. Initially I think
it was Bill who tried to get some of the things going, but he quit as
the head of the foundation. Trying it after a long wait with Don has
resulted exactly in nothing.<br>
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Eddy, this is simply the way that politics work. If you're able to get
a large constituency to support your goals, you're more likely to be
successful. Though the strong support of a single board member can be
useful, it's certainly not all that's needed to push change through.
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Weeeellll, I think basic promises should be kept. It took a very long
time until <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://openid.net/foundation/">http://openid.net/foundation/</a> was cleaned up. The page with
foundation members listing never happened. This was long promised,
never kept (for those who wanted to be listed). Incidentally I can't
find the page which promised the member benefits anymore, maybe that's
on purpose too.<br>
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The page <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://openid.net/get/">http://openid.net/get/</a> does favor only some
foundation/corporate members. That's unfortunate of course and not
satisfying for a corporate member.<br>
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Carsten's issue seems to be just another confirmation that member care
isn't something overly important....it's simply not enough to send out
once a year a reminder to pay the fee - or in his case simply deduct
it. Huuuhu, without a community supporting OpenID, I believe that
something very important is going to get lost. <br>
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Additionally I view the over-representation of the corporate members
overwhelming. I'd support a motion which would disallow employees and
otherwise affiliated to a sustaining member corporation for a community
seat. I'm certain this wasn't the intention originally - I believe
today that there is a conflict of interest. Your above comment seems to
be supportive of my impression. And some board members seem to be
clearly frustrated to be one out of fifteen with having to convince a
2/3 of corporate and affiliated majority for their cause. Personally I
didn't set any goals or targets, the above could become one however :-)<br>
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<td>Signer: </td>
<td>Eddy Nigg, <a href="http://www.startcom.org">StartCom Ltd.</a></td>
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<td>Jabber: </td>
<td><a href="xmpp:startcom@startcom.org">startcom@startcom.org</a></td>
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<td>Blog: </td>
<td><a href="http://blog.startcom.org">Join the Revolution!</a></td>
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<td>Phone: </td>
<td>+1.213.341.0390</td>
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