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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The problem with this proposal is that it removes the community’s
voice from the spec creation process. Our members should always be given
the option to vote NOT TO create a working group as well as the option to vote
TO create one. Otherwise, a working group can be created by a very small group
of insiders, without the community serving as a check & balance.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The current procedure, by design, always gives the community a
voice, and the final say. I believe we got this principle right the first
time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'> --
Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> board-bounces@openid.net
[mailto:board-bounces@openid.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brian Kissel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> board@openid.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [OpenID board] Allen Tom's proposal on WG formation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Seems this has some support and it would require a board and
membership vote to implement, correct? Is there a motion to the board to
make this change and a second? If so, we can start the notification clock
for a board vote. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'><br>
Brian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:navy'>==============<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Brian Kissel<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Cell: 503.866.4424<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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color:navy'>Fax: 503.296.5502<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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board-bounces@openid.net [mailto:board-bounces@openid.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David
Recordon<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2009 12:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> board@openid.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenID board] [step2] OpenID UI Extension - Draft 0.1
(formerly known as the Popup Extension)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>+1 (and minus the UX list)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Feb 24, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Drummond Reed wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>=Drummond</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="mailto:user-experience-bounces@openid.net">user-experience-bounces@openid.net</a>
[<a href="mailto:user-experience-bounces@openid.net">mailto:user-experience-bounces@openid.net</a>]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Breno de Medeiros<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Monday, February 23,
2009 9:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>OpenID user experience<br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [step2]
OpenID UI Extension - Draft 0.1 (formerly known as the Popup Extension)</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'>+1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:04 AM,
George Fletcher <<a href="mailto:gffletch@aol.com">gffletch@aol.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>+1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<br>
Allen Tom wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I think that approval by the
specs-council should be sufficient without a membership vote to start a WG.
Alternatively, if the specs-council does not recommend approval, then the WG
proposers could then appeal their case to the full membership.<br>
<br>
Allen<br>
<br>
Nat Sakimura wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><br>
Guys: If you think the initial membership voting requirement is an<br>
overkill, please raise your voice. I think this board can act swiftly<br>
to look at it.<br>
<br>
=nat<br>
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