Wow Thanks! Chris. <br><br>=nat<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Chris Messina <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chris.messina@gmail.com">chris.messina@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I've gone ahead and filled out the template that I created just to see<br>
if this kind of page would be helpful for such a vote:<br>
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<a href="https://openid.pbwiki.com/Vote%3A-Spec-Process-Improvement" target="_blank">https://openid.pbwiki.com/Vote%3A-Spec-Process-Improvement</a><br>
<br>
Feedback/tweaks are of course welcome.<br>
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Chris<br>
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On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Brian Kissel <<a href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com">bkissel@janrain.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Yes, this is the discussion period. The vote will start next Friday and be<br>
> open for a week or until we have the required number of votes to approve or<br>
> reject the motions. If the motions get modified during the discussion<br>
> period, I will upload the final versions into the voting tool.<br>
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> Cheers,<br>
><br>
> Brian<br>
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> From: Nat Sakimura [mailto:<a href="mailto:sakimura@gmail.com">sakimura@gmail.com</a>]<br>
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:05 PM<br>
> To: Brian Kissel<br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] [board-private] Reminder: OIDF BOD vote on Nat's<br>
> 4 spec process improvement motions<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Well, actually, I do not think we need to wait.<br>
><br>
> This is the discussion period before the voting (1 week?).<br>
><br>
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Brian Kissel <<a href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com">bkissel@janrain.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> OK, I will wait on putting any of the 4 proposals into the voting tool until<br>
> the day before the election. Please send me the final versions of each of<br>
> your motions by next Thursday.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
><br>
> Brian<br>
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> From: Nat Sakimura [mailto:<a href="mailto:sakimura@gmail.com">sakimura@gmail.com</a>]<br>
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:57 PM<br>
><br>
> To: Brian Kissel<br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] [board-private] Reminder: OIDF BOD vote on Nat's<br>
> 4 spec process improvement motions<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Yes.<br>
><br>
> The fourth one was modified as par discussion with David, though I also want<br>
> to hear what other people feels like.<br>
><br>
> =nat<br>
><br>
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Brian Kissel <<a href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com">bkissel@janrain.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> OK, so the first 3 were correct as stated?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
><br>
> Brian<br>
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> From: Nat Sakimura [mailto:<a href="mailto:sakimura@gmail.com">sakimura@gmail.com</a>]<br>
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:50 PM<br>
> To: Brian Kissel<br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
><br>
> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] [board-private] Reminder: OIDF BOD vote on Nat's<br>
> 4 spec process improvement motions<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Yes. Preferably, not wiki (because it's a bit too easy to edit...) but<br>
> something like bbs with voting facility :-)<br>
><br>
> Anyhow, here is my modified motion 4.<br>
><br>
> BE IT RESOLVED that the members of OpenID Foundation board have agreed to<br>
> amend the OpenID process document to clarify that no draft may claim OpenID<br>
> trademark until it is ratified to be a specification.<br>
><br>
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Brian Kissel <<a href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com">bkissel@janrain.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Agreed, the wiki or something like it would be a better way to keep the<br>
> proposal and discussion in one organized space. Nat, what do you think?<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
><br>
> Brian<br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
><br>
> From: <a href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net">board-bounces@openid.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net">board-bounces@openid.net</a>] On Behalf<br>
> Of Chris Messina<br>
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 3:43 PM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] [board-private] Reminder: OIDF BOD vote on Nat's<br>
> 4 spec process improvement motions<br>
><br>
> Would be great if Nat would add this to the wiki -- if only to try out<br>
> such a process and determine whether it works or not. I fear that<br>
> we're losing a lot of context/detail/accuracy by posting these kinds<br>
> of communications in multi-threaded emails.<br>
><br>
> Chris<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Brian Kissel <<a href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com">bkissel@janrain.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Nat, is there a more current version than this? The actual text of your<br>
>> proposal, which I took from your email, was the text I was intending to put<br>
>> into the board polling tool.<br>
>><br>
>> If there is a more current version, please send it to me.<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>><br>
>> Brian<br>
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>> Brian Kissel<br>
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>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:board-private-bounces@openid.net">board-private-bounces@openid.net</a><br>
>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:board-private-bounces@openid.net">board-private-bounces@openid.net</a>] On Behalf Of David Recordon<br>
>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 3:36 PM<br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:board-private@openid.net">board-private@openid.net</a><br>
>> Cc: <a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
>> Subject: Re: [board-private] Reminder: OIDF BOD vote on Nat's 4 spec<br>
>> process improvement motions<br>
>><br>
>> Hey Brian,<br>
>> I don't believe this captures the latest motions that Nat made.<br>
>><br>
>> --David<br>
>><br>
>> On Jan 16, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Brian Kissel wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> When: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:00 AM-6:30 AM (GMT-08:00) Pacific<br>
>>> Time (US & Canada).<br>
>>><br>
>>> *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*<br>
>>><br>
>>> FYI, this is a reminder that the online vote for Nat's four motions<br>
>>> will start on Friday Jan 23rd.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Followings are the proposed motions that I would like the board to<br>
>>> consider. There are two types: one that can take effect immediately,<br>
>>> and one that requires board and membership voting.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I. For immediate implementation of the current process:<br>
>>><br>
>>> One of the obstacles that we have found during the process was that<br>
>>> it was kind of hard to get the specs council to deliver the<br>
>>> recommendation in a timely fashion. It has seen some improvement<br>
>>> recently, but we want to make sure to continue it. Thus, I would<br>
>>> like to propose the following:<br>
>>><br>
>>> BE IT RESOLVED that the OIDF Committee Liason is directed to act as<br>
>>> the coordinator for the specification council so that specification<br>
>>> council create a recommendation for the membership about a formal<br>
>>> working group proposal within 15 days of the complete proposal being<br>
>>> circulated on <a href="mailto:specs@openid.net">specs@openid.net</a> to comply to the current OpenID<br>
>>> process.<br>
>>> II. Improvements of curent porcess<br>
>>><br>
>>> As a longer term solution, I would like to propose the following<br>
>>> three motions. The first two are to make sure the timely and<br>
>>> effective response from the specs council, and the last one is to<br>
>>> protect the OpenID(TM) as well as to make it easier to create a WG<br>
>>> so that all the discussion will be done inside the WG and the output<br>
>>> is IPR clean.<br>
>>><br>
>>> BE IT RESOLVED that the members of OpenID Foundation board have<br>
>>> agreed to amend the OpenID process document so that should the<br>
>>> specifications council not create a recommendation for the<br>
>>> membership about a formal working group proposal within 15 days of<br>
>>> the complete proposal being circulated on <a href="mailto:specs@openid.net">specs@openid.net</a>, then the<br>
>>> proposal may proceed to a membership vote for approval.<br>
>>> BE IT RESOLVED that the members of OpenID Foundation board have<br>
>>> agreed to amend the OpenID process document so that should specs<br>
>>> council members not participate in the discussion of two consecutive<br>
>>> working group proposals, they will be deemed to have resigned, and<br>
>>> new specs council members who are committed to participating in the<br>
>>> process will be appointed to replace them.<br>
>>> BE IT RESOLVED that the members of OpenID Foundation board have<br>
>>> agreed to amend the OpenID process document to clarify that no draft<br>
>>> may claim OpenID trademark until it is ratified to be an<br>
>>> implementor's draft status or full specification status.<br>
>>><br>
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