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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>We have all agreed we’re not going to do anything until the
elections are done, no disagreement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Nor was I advocating “experimenting” on the OIDF website. I
think the question that was originally put to the BOD was should we spend $2K
to update the text box implementation to fix the bugs that were reported with i-names
and directed identity. There was a lot of discussion about when and whether to
spend that $2K, at which point I offered a suggestion to put a different front
end on RPX as one alternative, either for the near term (cost deferral) or long
term (cost reduction). If neither of those proposals is acceptable, that’s
fine, it was only a suggestion in response to a lot of dialog on the thread.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>So if the majority of the board prefers to spend the $2K to fix
the text box implementation we had originally, then that’s what we should do,
and have Refresh Media start soon so that they can make the change as soon as
the elections are over. If we want to do something else to save/delay costs,
improve the UX, switch vendors from Refresh, etc. then those proposals should
be shared with the BOD as well as alternatives to consider. If there are no
other proposals to consider, then a simple vote on $2K for Refresh’s proposal should
wrap this up.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Cheers,</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'><br>
Brian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:navy'>==============<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Brian Kissel<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Cell: 503.866.4424<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Fax: 503.296.5502<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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board-bounces@openid.net [mailto:board-bounces@openid.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dick
Hardt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> board@openid.net<br>
<b>Cc:</b> larry drebes<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenID board] BOARD VOTE: Motion to update Rails plugin
andOpenID.net ...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On 18-Dec-08, at 10:27 AM, Brian Kissel wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I don’t know how much more clear I can be. I’m NOT
advocating for RPX, I’m advocating for a better UX on the OIDF website.
Rip out RPX today, that’s fine. Ask the community how we can improve
OpenID login on the OIDF website, then get volunteers to implement it or pay
Refresh or anyone else to implement it. But let’s make the OIDF website a
showcase of the goodness of OpenID for users and RPs. Like it or not, the
OIDF website is a showcase for the broader market, not just a tool for OIDF
members. If we can improve UX and maintain neutrality, great. But
let’s not sacrifice UX for neutrality if we know that the existing neutral UX
is NOT intuitive. Would love to see some ideas on what we could be doing
to improve intuitiveness rather than just saying a text box is neutral, so
let’s just take the easy path and go that way.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Would like to hear from some others on how we can improve
intuitiveness and whether it’s important, not only on our website, but as a
fundamental goal for the OIDF.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>That is more clear -- although your other comments indicate
you are justifying why it is ok to use RPX.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>OpenID UX is an issue. I do NOT think the OIDF website is
the place to experiment, particularly during an election process.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>This is a technical issue -- and the OIDF is there to
facilitate resolving the problem -- the Foundation bylaws explicitly forbid the
Foundation from directly resolving technical issues.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>There is pretty active discussion on UX issues on the lists
now. I think people are looking at how to solve it -- and there is NO clear
solution that has gained consensus.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I think we are WAY off topic on this thread now.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>-- Dick<o:p></o:p></p>
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