<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 2-Dec-08, at 5:51 PM, Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"><blockquote cite="mid:392EECF3-54E3-4153-8273-8FBFED17E3F5@gmail.com" type="cite"><pre wrap=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; white-space: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: -1; "> However the original comment wasn't constructive for me. IMO trademark issues are certainly something which might affect many of us...</span></pre></blockquote></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Of course they do.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"><br> <br> <blockquote cite="mid:392EECF3-54E3-4153-8273-8FBFED17E3F5@gmail.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Remember that we are all volunteers and our ED is out of commission.
</pre> </blockquote> <br> Don't even mention the volunteers excuse, because it sucks. Corporate members aren't volunteering as far as I can tell, second, if time-constraints or other issues prevent a board member from functioning, he should return his seat to the foundation and disqualify himself. </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I am volunteering. I have been putting in 4-8 hours per week for the last few months. Pretty high for a volunteer. There is only so much one can do in that amount of time.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"><br> <br> <blockquote cite="mid:392EECF3-54E3-4153-8273-8FBFED17E3F5@gmail.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap=""><!---->The object in dealing with the trademark issue is to protect the
OpenID brand. This is in the best interest of the community.
</pre> </blockquote> <br> Indeed!<br> <br> <blockquote cite="mid:392EECF3-54E3-4153-8273-8FBFED17E3F5@gmail.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">If the discussion about how to deal with it is public, then the other
party can be fully aware of our strategy -- putting the Foundation at
considerable disadvantage.
</pre> </blockquote> <br> I don't agree with this at all. Trademark laws and policies shall be voiced clearly and prominently. </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I agree with this. See the comment I made about polices earlier. This is not what my comment said though.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">In this particular case I'm interested to know which trademark they violated. </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>um, it was the OpenID trademark per the original, public message about this.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">Trademark(s) are a matter of the foundation and its members, including eventual violations. Any party shall be aware of the dealings in this regard. (Besides that most of us aren't lawyers - which would take care of it eventually, but the fact that a violation was detected (if and when and why) and that it's going to be pursued shall be of no disadvantage - quite the opposite I think)</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The original message showed that a company OpenQ had announced a product called OpenID. This message was public.</div><div>How the board was going to approach OpenQ was moved to board-private.</div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"><br> <br> <blockquote cite="mid:392EECF3-54E3-4153-8273-8FBFED17E3F5@gmail.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">There is a committee working on a clear Trademark Policy for OpenID.
We don't have that at this point. Agree it is important. If you have
time to help out, let David Recordon know.
</pre> </blockquote> <br> I shall be to your service on this particular issue. Tell me how to join.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Contact David at <a href="mailto:recordond@gmail.com">recordond@gmail.com</a></div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"><br> <br> <blockquote cite="mid:392EECF3-54E3-4153-8273-8FBFED17E3F5@gmail.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">In summary, we are doing the best we can as volunteers.</pre> </blockquote> <br> Nonono....stop the whining! And perhaps it should be made clear upfront to all of the nominees, you volunteer because you can, and not because you can't !</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I bring up the volunteer aspect to highlight that resources are limited. There is only so much that can be done and we prioritize where efforts are spent.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br></body></html>