<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Sorry if my last email was confusing. Let me restate:<div><br></div><div>That an issue has come up should be public. The results of resolving should be public. </div><div><br></div><div>Resolving problems often should be private.</div><div><br></div><div>Examples of discussions that should be private:</div><div><br></div><div>+ Executive Director candidates and their status while recruiting and negotiating with them. Often people are employed somewhere else, so public disclosure is inappropriate.</div><div><br></div><div>+ Recruitment of new corporate board members. Companies will usually want to (or for compliance, may have to) control disclosure of joining the OpenID Foundation. It may be part of a larger strategy that they want to control the disclosure of.</div><div><br></div><div>Examples of public:</div><div><br></div><div>+ OIDF is looking for a new ED, a new ED has been hired</div><div><br></div><div>+ OIDF is recruiting additional corp board members, a new corp. board member has joined (but not to be disclosed until they are ok with it)</div><div><br></div><div>-- Dick</div><div><br><div><div>On 2-Dec-08, at 12:25 PM, Chris Messina wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">This sounds contradicting -- Dick, are you saying that this discussion should be made public so the community it aware of it, or made private because "It is often inappropriate and counter productive in negotiations for your strategy and discussions to be public."<div> <br></div><div>Which side are you advocating for?</div><div><br></div><div>Frankly I think the private list should be used as a last resort, if not banished altogether.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm fed up with private back-door conversations with the "open" ID foundation.</div> <div><br></div><div>Chris<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Dick Hardt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dick.hardt@gmail.com">dick.hardt@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> <div style="word-wrap:break-word">Agree the community should be aware of issues and results.<div><br></div><div>It is often inappropriate and counter productive in negotiations for your strategy and discussions to be public.</div> <div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div>-- Dick</div></font><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><div><br><div><div>On 2-Dec-08, at 11:27 AM, Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"> <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Open is King! Why hide such an important subject? It's certainly something the community and others should know about and to which results we'd come eventually!<br> <br> <div> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td colspan="2">Regards </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Signer: </td> <td>Eddy Nigg, <a href="http://www.startcom.org" target="_blank">StartCom Ltd.</a></td> </tr> <tr> <td>Jabber: </td> <td><a>startcom@startcom.org</a></td> </tr> <tr> <td>Blog: </td> <td><a href="http://blog.startcom.org" target="_blank">Join the Revolution!</a></td> </tr> <tr> <td>Phone: </td> <td>+1.213.341.0390</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </div> <br> On 12/02/2008 07:27 PM, DeWitt Clinton: <blockquote type="cite">Definitely sounds like a problem. We should discuss legal matters off the public list, however.<br> <br> Off topic, do Marketwatch URL's really contain unencoded '{' and '}' characters? Someone should really point them to RFCs 1738 and 2396.<br> <br> -DeWitt<br> <br> <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Johannes Ernst <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jernst@netmesh.us" target="_blank">jernst@netmesh.us</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex"><a href="http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/OpenQ-Announces-Release-Breakthrough-Solutions/story.aspx?guid=" target="_blank">http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/OpenQ-Announces-Release-Breakthrough-Solutions/story.aspx?guid=</a>{3E32B03F-4DDD-4AC3-83F2-D02A46D39176}<br> <font color="#888888"> <br> <br> <br> <br> Johannes Ernst<br> NetMesh Inc.<br> <br> </font><br> <br> <a href="http://netmesh.info/jernst" target="_blank">http://netmesh.info/jernst</a><br> <br> <br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> board mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:board@openid.net" target="_blank">board@openid.net</a><br> <a href="http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board" target="_blank">http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board</a><br> <br> </blockquote> </div> <br> <pre><hr size="4" width="90%">_______________________________________________
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