<div dir="ltr">Understood... thanks to Drummond and Nat for the clarification.<br><br clear="all">|| Brett McDowell | <a href="http://www.projectliberty.org">www.projectliberty.org</a> | +1.413.652.1248<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/8/21 Nat Sakimura <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:n-sakimura@nri.co.jp">n-sakimura@nri.co.jp</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi Bret.<br>
<br>
The "ironic" is on the part of "OpenID Board Meeting".<br>
It was at the beggining of XRI TC, and while waiting for other members to<br>
arrive,<br>
I was musing on the "<<Open>>ID Board meeting" being "closed" :-)<br>
That's the part I think Drummond has noted being "ironic". LAP is not<br>
involved in the irony, I think.<br>
<br>
=nat<br>
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:02:57 +0900, Brett McDowell<br>
<<a href="mailto:brett@projectliberty.org">brett@projectliberty.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Although I appreciate having one of our "best practices" highlighted<br>
> here, I<br>
> have to say that there is nothing ironic about Liberty Alliance's<br>
> commitment<br>
> to openness or our leadership in that regard.<br>
><br>
> || Brett McDowell | <a href="http://www.projectliberty.org" target="_blank">www.projectliberty.org</a> | +1.413.652.1248<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Drummond Reed<br>
> <<a href="mailto:drummond.reed@cordance.net">drummond.reed@cordance.net</a>>wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Board members:<br>
>><br>
>> Nat Sakimura makes the point to us below (and to me offline) that we<br>
>> have<br>
>> not been making it clear where the board meeting minutes are posted<br>
>> after<br>
>> they have been approved. Also, a two-week lag before approval and<br>
>> posting<br>
>> is<br>
>> a long time, especially for active topics.<br>
>><br>
>> And a third point Nat makes is particularly ironic: the Liberty Alliance<br>
>> holds open board meetings (any Liberty member may attend) while the<br>
>> OpenID<br>
>> Foundation holds closed board meetings. The exception is executive<br>
>> sessions,<br>
>> of course, but Liberty schedules those separately.<br>
>><br>
>> I think we strongly consider the same policy.<br>
>><br>
>> =Drummond<br>
>><br>
>> > -----Original Message-----<br>
>> > From: <a href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net">board-bounces@openid.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net">board-bounces@openid.net</a>] On<br>
>> Behalf<br>
>> > Of Nat Sakimura<br>
>> > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 6:54 PM<br>
>> > To: <a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
>> > Cc: <<a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a>><br>
>> > Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Final Agenda for 8/14/2008 ...<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Thanks Drummond.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Actially, I was looking for the past minutes as well and could not<br>
>> > find it so I have asked the question.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > =nat@Mt.Asama via iPhone<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On 2008/08/16, at 10:29, "Drummond Reed" <<a href="mailto:drummond.reed@cordance.net">drummond.reed@cordance.net</a>><br>
>> > wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > > Nat, I'm not the Secretary (Martin Atkins is) but Mart was on<br>
>> > > vacation so I<br>
>> > > took them for this meeting. Our standard procedure is to post them<br>
>> > > to the<br>
>> > > board's private list after the meeting (which I did) and then have<br>
>> the<br>
>> > > approved by the board before posting to the public list.<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > I'll deter to Scott about whether he could post the notes to the<br>
>> > > public list<br>
>> > > before approval.<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > =Drummond<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > >> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> > >> From: <a href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net">board-bounces@openid.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net">board-bounces@openid.net</a>] On<br>
>> > >> Behalf<br>
>> > >> Of <a href="mailto:sakimura@gmail.com">sakimura@gmail.com</a><br>
>> > >> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 6:17 PM<br>
>> > >> To: <a href="mailto:david@sixapart.com">david@sixapart.com</a>; <a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
>> > >> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Final Agenda for 8/14/2008 ...<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> Under which URL the meeting notes are posted?<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> On 8/14/08, David Recordon <<a href="mailto:drecordon@sixapart.com">drecordon@sixapart.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > >>> Hi Eddy,<br>
>> > >>> Board calls are generally not open for anyone to join. Notes are<br>
>> > >>> posted after every meeting and if they're a specific topic you'd<br>
>> > >>> like<br>
>> > >>> to see on the agenda that can happen with a few weeks notice.<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> --David<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> On Aug 13, 2008, at 4:18 PM, Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote:<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>>> Hi Scott,<br>
>> > >>>><br>
>> > >>>> Is there a way to join this and how? I'm not quite familiar yet<br>
>> > >>>> with<br>
>> > >>>> the foundation internals...<br>
>> > >>>><br>
>> > >>>> Regards<br>
>> > >>>><br>
>> > >>>> Signer: Eddy Nigg, StartCom Ltd.<br>
>> > >>>> Jabber: <a href="mailto:startcom@startcom.org">startcom@startcom.org</a><br>
>> > >>>> Blog: Join the Revolution!<br>
>> > >>>> Phone: +1.213.341.0390<br>
>> > >>>><br>
>> > >>>> Scott Kveton:<br>
>> > >>>>><br>
>> > >>>>> Here is the final agenda for the call tomorrow ... FYI:<br>
>> > >>>>><br>
>> > >>>>> * General business (minutes approved, finance update)<br>
>> > >>>>> * Vote on mission/vision statement - Scott/Dick<br>
>> > >>>>> * Form & elect an executive committee - Scott<br>
>> > >>>>> * Discuss short-term action items - Scott<br>
>> > >>>>> * Update on membership/election tools - Bill<br>
>> > >>>>> * Recruiting committee update - Scott/Raj<br>
>> > >>>>> * Board Development Committee creation - Scott<br>
>> > >>>>> * Trademark committee update - Raj/David<br>
>> > >>>>> * Output of Johannes' work re: strategy - Johannes<br>
>> > >>>>><br>
>> > >>>>> - Scott<br>
>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> > >>>>> board mailing list<br>
>> > >>>>> <a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
>> > >>>>> <a href="http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board" target="_blank">http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board</a><br>
>> > >>>>><br>
>> > >>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> > >>>> board mailing list<br>
>> > >>>> <a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
>> > >>>> <a href="http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board" target="_blank">http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board</a><br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> --<br>
>> > >> Nat Sakimura (=nat)<br>
>> > >> <a href="http://www.sakimura.org/en/" target="_blank">http://www.sakimura.org/en/</a><br>
>> > >> _______________________________________________<br>
>> > >> board mailing list<br>
>> > >> <a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
>> > >> <a href="http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board" target="_blank">http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board</a><br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > _______________________________________________<br>
>> > > board mailing list<br>
>> > > <a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
>> > > <a href="http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board" target="_blank">http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board</a><br>
>> > _______________________________________________<br>
>> > board mailing list<br>
>> > <a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
>> > <a href="http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board" target="_blank">http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board</a><br>
>><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> board mailing list<br>
>> <a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
>> <a href="http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board" target="_blank">http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board</a><br>
>><br>
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