<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi DeWitt<div><br></div><div>Your observations echo my experience with Google -- Google currently does not have strategic interest in solving internet identity, but are interested in deploying a solution if and when it presents itself.</div><div><br></div><div>Other players have varying degrees of strategic interest in solving internet identity -- and you may be right that those are the ones that are in that business, or see strategic advantage to participating in having the problems resolved.</div><div><br></div><div>The question to the board is what role do we think the Foundation should play that reflects the desires of are nascent community.</div><div><br></div><div>-- Dick</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 22-May-08, at 10:00 AM, DeWitt Clinton wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Very interesting!<br><br>Having watched how discussions around OpenID have spread around Google, I've seen a lot more uptake on (1) rather than (2). In general, technologies that attract users or make life better for users tend to get people excited, whereas the second bucket (one I may be personally attracted to, as it is), tends to get a resounding "so what?" and requires a ton more advocacy and hand-holding. Interestingly, this pattern is consistent at all levels of the company, from engineers to execs alike.<br> <br>Very few people seem to care about "solving the problem of internet identity," outside those few that are in the business of solving the problem of internet identity. <br><br>-DeWitt<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Dick Hardt <<a href="mailto:dick@sxip.com">dick@sxip.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> fellow board members:<br> <br> Reviewing the material that Beale gleaned from the interviews, the<br> focus has been on what do we need to do to get adoption of OpenID<br> today and what are the barriers to adoption. The messaging they came<br> back with was assuming that OpenID is ready for mainstream adoption,<br> we just need to correctly message about it.<br> <br> We need to decide if we are focused on:<br> (1) getting adoption of the current technology, or<br> (2) getting people together to solve the broader internet identity<br> problems using the current technology as a starting point.<br> <br> If the first one, then we can have the following messaging:<br> <br> - Leadership<br> using OpenID shows the world you are forward thinking<br> - Efficiency<br> using OpenID will save you money<br> - Growth<br> using OpenID will get you more users<br> <br> If the second, we can have the following messaging:<br> <br> - Leadership<br> participating in the Foundation shows the world you are part of the<br> solution for solving internet identity<br> - Efficiency<br> participating in the Foundation unites your efforts with others<br> - Growth<br> participating in the Foundation will provide you with identity<br> solutions that allow you to grow your business<br> <br> NOTE: I made up these phrases on the fly to indicate the tone -- let's<br> not spend time discussing if they are the right words!<br> <br> <br> <br> Personally, I am aligned with (2) and with the following items from<br> the Internet Identity Workshop page [1]<br> <br> ....<br> <br> User-centric identity is the ability:<br> <br> * To use one's identifier(s) on more then one site<br> * To control who sees what information about you<br> * To selectively share presence and profile information<br> * To maintain multiple identities and personas in the contexts<br> you wish<br> * To aggregate attention, navigation, and purchase history from<br> the sites and communities you frequent<br> * To move and share your personal data, relationships, documents,<br> and other publications as you wish<br> <br> [1] <a href="http://iiw.idcommons.net/index.php/Iiw2008a" target="_blank">http://iiw.idcommons.net/index.php/Iiw2008a</a><br> _______________________________________________<br> board mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br> <a href="http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board" target="_blank">http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board</a><br> </blockquote></div><br> _______________________________________________<br>board mailing list<br><a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board<br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>