<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Nat<div><br></div><div>Not sure the issue I raised is addressed below. Clearly there are a number of tasks to be taken care of at the national level. My question is how does the OIDF decide who which chapter will be the national chapter if more then one group wants to be the national chapter? First come first served? What if others in that nation are not happy with what the OIDF anointed national chapter is doing? </div><div><br></div><div>A key tenant of open source communities is the ability to fork. Not that anyone wants a fork, but the right to fork means that a community can split up and go its separate ways. The rest of the local chapter model let's a chapter fork if people want to accomplish different goals.</div><div><br></div><div>Suggestions on how to deal with those issues?</div><div><br></div><div>-- Dick</div><div><br><div><div>On 8-May-08, at 7:14 AM, Nat Sakimura wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Hi Mike,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>Below is from my original Chapter Policy Manuscript, which seems to be much too robust for acceptance.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>However, it does contain such criterias: Specifically, National Chapters must fulfil III-2, III-3:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br><p><b><span lang="EN-US"><span> III-2.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></b><b><span lang="EN-US">Intellectual Property</span></b></p><p><b><span lang="EN-US"></span></b></p><p><b><span lang="EN-US"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span lang="EN-US">The National Chapters are required to secure the fair use of trademarks and other intellectual property<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br> in the jurisdiction for the OpenID Community with a commercially reasonable effort.<span> </span><b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><div style="text-indent: -21pt; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><span lang="EN-US"><span>III-3.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></b><b><span lang="EN-US">Translation<o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div style="text-indent: -52.5pt; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><span lang="EN-US"><span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>i.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">The National Chapters are required to provide the translation of then current OpenID Specifications and the IPR documents in the local language.<b></b></span></div><div style="text-indent: -52.5pt; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><span lang="EN-US"><span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>ii.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">The National Chapters are required to assist the communication of the Local Chapter Members with the Working Groups by setting up a local language mailing list parallel to the OIDF Working Group mailing lists.<br></span></div><div style="text-indent: -52.5pt; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><span lang="EN-US"><br></span></div>III-2 especially, requires a single entity to be doing this, since otherwise, it will result in a chaos. This probalby is the most important reason for having a single National Chapter.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>Also, IMHO, a National chapter should conduct a preliminary survay of local patents for the possible infringement of those by OpenID specificatioin. This is a rather costly operation and best dealt at one entity for the economic reason. Probably, this should be added to III-2 as well.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>Nat<br><br><br>Original text are as below:---<br><br><div style="text-indent: -31.5pt; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; "><span>II.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; ">Duties of a Local Chapter<o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div style="text-indent: -21pt; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><span lang="EN-US"><span>1.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><b><span lang="EN-US">Intellectual Property</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><br>The chapters must agree that their activities will be for the purpose of supporting the adoptions and the usage of OpenID. They must agree that any intellectual property or trademarks developed or held by the local chapter must be available freely for the OpenID Community for the fair use.</span></div><div style="text-indent: -21pt; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><span lang="EN-US"><span>2.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><b><span lang="EN-US">Activities</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><br>Each Local Chapter must engage in the following activities:</span></div><div style="text-indent: -52.5pt; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><span lang="EN-US"><span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>i.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">Annual General Meeting</span></div><div style="text-indent: -52.5pt; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><span lang="EN-US"><span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>ii.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">Annual Report Publishing</span></div><div style="text-indent: -52.5pt; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><span lang="EN-US"><span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>iii.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">Web site which is enabled with OpenID Authentication.</span></div><div style="text-indent: -21pt; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><span lang="EN-US"><span>3.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></b><b><span lang="EN-US">Autonomous Financing<br></span></b><span lang="EN-US">The chapters must operate autonomously without any financial support from OIDF.<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></div><div style="text-indent: -21pt; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><span lang="EN-US"><span>4.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></b><b><span lang="EN-US">Membership Management<br></span></b><span lang="EN-US">Local Chapters must maintain the list of the Local Chapter Members.<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="text-indent: -31.5pt; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; "><span>III.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; ">Obligations of a National Chapter<o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><span lang="EN-US">In addition to the above Local Chapters duties, National Chapters are required to fulfill the following obligations.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="text-indent: -21pt; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><span lang="EN-US"><span>1.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></b><b><span lang="EN-US">Form<br></span></b><span lang="EN-US">Although it is not required to be registered as a non-profit organization, a National Chapter must be a non-profit for its purpose.<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></div><div style="text-indent: -21pt; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><span lang="EN-US"><span>2.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></b><b><span lang="EN-US">Intellectual Property<br></span></b><span lang="EN-US">The National Chapters are required to secure the fair use of trademarks and other intellectual property in the jurisdiction for the OpenID Community with a commercially reasonable effort.<span> </span><b><o:p></o:p></b></span></div><div style="text-indent: -21pt; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><span lang="EN-US"><span>3.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></b><b><span lang="EN-US">Translation<o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div style="text-indent: -52.5pt; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><span lang="EN-US"><span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>i.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">The National Chapters are required to provide the translation of then current OpenID Specifications and the IPR documents in the local language.<b></b></span></div><div style="text-indent: -52.5pt; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><span lang="EN-US"><span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>ii.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">The National Chapters are required to assist the communication of the Local Chapter Members with the Working Groups by setting up a local language mailing list parallel to the OIDF Working Group mailing lists.</span></div><br><br>Mike Jones wrote:<blockquote cite="mid:C11F8A453DFFBE49A9F0D75873F5544607F03CAF@NA-EXMSG-C118.redmond.corp.microsoft.com" type="cite"><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">Nat and Snorri, since you're the ones advocating OIDF having the concept of designated national chapters, I'm going to first ask you to take a stab at answering Dick's question. I agree with him that having a designation but no criteria for the board to make that designation nor any definition of how the OIDF should treat a designated national chapter any differently than any other local chapter is a recipe for future problems.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">Summarizing, I think the questions are:<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "> - What criteria will be used to decide which application is granted the national chapter if there is more then one applicant?<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "> - Does the OIDF treat designated national chapters any differently than other chapters, and if so, how?<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "> Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "> -- Mike<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align: center; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><hr tabindex="-1" align="center" size="2" width="100%"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">board-bounces@openid.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:board-bounces@openid.net</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Dick Hardt<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:28 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:board@openid.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">board@openid.net</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [OpenID board] Revised local chapters policy</span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><div style="border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: solid; border-top-width: medium; border-right-width: medium; border-bottom-width: medium; border-left-width: 1.5pt; padding-top: 0in; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 4pt; "><div style="border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: solid; border-top-width: medium; border-right-width: medium; border-bottom-width: medium; border-left-width: 1.5pt; padding-top: 0in; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 4pt; "><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><u><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; font-weight: bold; ">12 - Territories</span></font></u><u1:p></u1:p></b><font color="black"><span style="color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; font-weight: bold; ">OIDF will recognize any proposed eligible Local Chapters, regardless of the geographic scope of the chapter, including chapters with overlapping territories and missions. <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Chapters organized at the nation state level may apply to the OIDF to be recognized as the OIDF-designated national chapter. OIDF will recognize at most one chapter as the designated national chapter in a nation-state at any time.</span></font><u1:p></u1:p></b><font color="black"><span style="color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font color="black" face="Arial" size="4"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; font-weight: bold; "> </span></font></b><font color="black"><span style="color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">What criteria will be used to decide which application is granted the national chapter if there is more then one applicant?<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">If the national chapter leadership is lacking and another group wants to take over, how is that done?<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">These are very subjective / political criteria that I think would be best for the OIDF to stay out of if possible.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">-- Dick<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div></blockquote><br><pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
Nat Sakimura (=nat)
Nomura Research Institute, Ltd.
XDI.ORG Vice Chair
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