[OpenID board] ReadWriteWeb: R.I.P. OpenID: Janrain Raises Millions to Do Just the Opposite

Thu Aug 4 21:05:58 UTC 2011

The RWW article is wrong on many points, but overall it's fantastic that
Janrain got a new round of funding - this just proves that investors
recognize that Janrain is creating a lot of value by helping websites
integrate 3rd party identities.

Allen

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Eric Sachs <esachs at google.com> wrote:

> Looks fine.  A bunch of small cleanup items below.
>
> >> little corners of the internet<http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/rip_openid_janrain_raises_millions_to_do_just_the.php>
> expand the hyperlink to include the l
>
> >> preso is at
> change to "presentation on"
>
> >> OpenID Connect, like OAuth 2.0
> Make OpenID Connect link to
> http://openid.net/2011/07/15/current-map-for-openid-connect/
>
> >> from Google, Microsoft and Facebook.
> change to "from companies like"
>
> >> small companies will do.  We can see where they invest.
> change to "small companies will do, we can see where they invest."
>
> >> those ChuckM described.
> change to "Chuck Mortimore"
>
> >>  at a OpenID Summit
> change to "at an OpenID Summit"
>
> >>  Mountain View CA at Microsoft's offices <http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/labs/siliconvalley/default.aspx>
>  the OpenID Foundation will be hosting a technical interop and testing
> workshop for engineers and developers interested in OpenID Connect.
> Split the sentence so it ends after the hyperlink, i.e. ""... Mountain
> View CA at Microsoft's offices<http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/labs/siliconvalley/default.aspx>.
>  The OpenID Foundation will be hosting a technical interop and testing
> workshop for engineers and developers interested in OpenID Connect."
>
> Lets also add a sentence at the end of the paragraph that says "There will
> also be sessions for website operators who want to learn more about why they
> should get out of the password business and integrate with identity
> providers.  Information on how to register for the event will be posted
> soon."
>
> >> In other words, wether bearish or bullish don't touch the remote, stay
> tuned for more of the very ambitious, widely discussed project called OpenID
> Connect. <http://openid.net/2011/07/15/current-map-for-openid-connect/>
> "wether" should be "whether" and need a comma after bullish
> I am also uncomfortable with how the end of this sentence that is so
> protocol specific, when we know that most of the big IDPs are more likely to
> use OpenID Connect-"like" flows on top of OAuth.  Can we simply change the
> end to say "In other words, whether bearish or bullish, don't touch the
> remote, stay tuned for more in the evolution of the OpenID.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Don Thibeau <don at oidf.org> wrote:
>
>> All:
>>
>> One of the topics discussed recently at Ping Identity's OpenID Summit at
>> its Cloud Identity Conference and again at last week's Gartner Catalyst
>> conference was a "consumerisation of the enterprise"<http://www.callcentreclinic.com/news/technology/the-consumerisation-of-the-enterprise-a-holistic-approach-to-the-social-media-generation-45361.htm> or
>> IT trend.  OpenID was at the center of those discussions as technology bulls
>> and bears debated its value in both enterprise and consumer use cases.
>> OpenID's evolution from little corners of the internet<http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/rip_openid_janrain_raises_millions_to_do_just_the.php> to
>> mainstream adoption tracks the changes in internet identity best understood
>> in hindsight. One leading edge adopter's review of how OpenID's user
>> centricity morphed to a provider centric architecture is seen in
>> Salesforce.com's Chuck Mortimore's blunt but bullish preso is at  'Does
>> OpenID work for the Enterprise?" <http://youtu.be/ZxVJnxJ2Rvg>
>>
>> In deciding wether one is bearish or bullish on OpenID it may be useful to
>> "follow the money" and follow the leaders.
>>
>> OpenID Connect, like OAuth 2.0, is among the few standards that has real
>> technical engagement from Google, Microsoft and Facebook. While no one can
>> predict what these companies, relying parties and small companies will do.
>>  We can see where they invest.  Wether at industry conferences or launching
>> pilots, industry leaders and developers like JanRain, Ping Identity and
>> others making multi year /multi million dollar bets on protocols like OpenID
>> Connect as it tracks with OAuth in enabling new claims and data centric
>> architectures.  Following the money supports a bullish view of the value
>> beyond social/single sign-on in today's web.  As noted companies like Ping
>> Identity, JanRain and others have raised significant funding to pursue
>> opportunities in this space. Analysts note a strong demand<http://www.marketwatch.com/story/identive-group-announces-second-quarter-2011-results-2011-08-04?reflink=MW_news_stmp> for
>> identity management solutions globally.
>>
>> Bears among us rightfully point to how OpenID has been quiet over the past
>> year as it adjusted to the new market conditions like those ChuckM
>> described.  Sausage and standards making isn't pretty and takes a maddening
>> amount of time and money. Engineers, be they community volunteers or
>> "volunteered" by large industry leaders take care when re-architecting a
>> core offering like OpenID. Meanwhile OpenID Foundation members like
>> Symantec, PayPal, Google, and others continue to co-sponsor OpenID Summits
>> and other events with industry, where the evolution of OpenID is talked
>> about and its adoption continues to increase around the world. Although
>> OpenID may become more plumbing than the next big thing for the Silicon
>> Valley tech press, its premise and technological underpinnings are proving
>> to be solid and future-facing.
>>
>> Finally, take a look at the work being done at Google and the OpenID
>> Foundation <http://openid.net/foundation/> on the Account Chooser<http://sites.google.com/site/gitooldocs/experiment---account-chooser>,
>> a scalable, user-friendly way to bring OpenID technologies to the masses,
>> while still supporting a philosophy of decentralized, interoperable identity
>> solutions.  Bears and Bulls can judge for themselves as OpenID Connect is
>> tried, tested and toughened at a OpenID Summit hosted by Microsoft on
>> September 12 and 13 in Mountain View CA at Microsoft's offices <http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/labs/siliconvalley/default.aspx> the
>> OpenID Foundation will be hosting a technical interop and testing workshop
>> for engineers and developers interested in OpenID Connect.
>>
>> In other words, wether bearish or bullish don't touch the remote, stay
>> tuned for more of the very ambitious, widely discussed project called OpenID
>> Connect. <http://openid.net/2011/07/15/current-map-for-openid-connect/>
>>
>>
>> Don Thibeau
>> Executive Director
>> OpenID.net
>>
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Chris Messina wrote:
>>
>> Tough article to read:
>>
>>
>> readwriteweb.com/archives/rip_openid_janrain_raises_millions_to_do_just_the.php<http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/rip_openid_janrain_raises_millions_to_do_just_the.php>
>> Especially in light of the work on OpenID Connect, do we have a response?
>>
>> Chris
>>
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