[OpenID board] Why Connect?

[Brian Kissel]

Hi Dick,

I agree we should absolutely address the needs of a broad class of
internet identity needs, certainly well beyond Janrain's customers which
are a fraction of the 70M active websites today.  As I responded to
another message today, the approach I'd advocate should be extensible from
the simplest applications to some more complex and demanding ones.  We
should solicit direct input from the market (existing and prospective
RPs), and we should consider all reasonable approaches and technologies
that can meet those market needs.  I'm not advocating for or against
OpenID Connect, I am advocating getting more "voice of the customer" input
and trying to find an approach that can allow the broadest possible
adoption and usage of user managed identity, now and over time.  It would
be great if we could continue leverage the OpenID brand and OpenID
Foundation infrastructure to continue the great progress we've made so
far, even if the overall approach ends up including technologies beyond
just OpenID.

Thanks for posting your scenario, I hope RPs in particular will provide
specific feedback on that summary.

Cheers,

Brian
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Hardt [mailto:dick.hardt at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 10:31 PM
To: Brian Kissel
Cc: Eran Hammer-Lahav; Allen Tom; Joseph Smarr; OpenID Board (public);
openid-specs at lists.openid.net
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Why Connect?

I would like to solve to solve the identity problem for more than the B2C
use cases and the JanRain's customers.

I think a more general solution will reap an order of magnitude of rewards
for all players.

I worry that the Connect path leads us into a dead end that will take us
years to get out of.

I posted a scenario that I hope helps illustrate how I see the
technologies working together to create more value for RPs and users.

-- Dick

On 2010-05-24, at 10:12 PM, Brian Kissel wrote:

> It seems to me that the broader market is coalescing around OpenID as
the
> brand for open standards-based user managed identity in a B2C
environment.
> My take away from the last couple of board meetings is that we should
> embrace that, not avoid it.  Most RPs and end users don't really care
> what's under the hood, they want solutions that address their business
and
> personal objectives.  Let's see how we can best leverage the open
> standards work being developed and deployed by a number of stakeholders
to
> address real market needs and benefits.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
> ___________
>
> Brian Kissel
> CEO - JanRain, Inc.
> bkissel at janrain.com
> Mobile: 503.342.2668 | Fax: 503.296.5502
> 519 SW 3rd Ave. Suite 600  Portland, OR 97204
>
> Increase registrations, engage users, and grow your brand with RPX.
Learn
> more at www.rpxnow.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net
> [mailto:openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Eran
> Hammer-Lahav
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:11 PM
> To: Dick Hardt; Allen Tom
> Cc: Joseph Smarr; OpenID Board (public); openid-specs at lists.openid.net
> Subject: RE: [OpenID board] Why Connect?
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:openid-specs-
>> bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Dick Hardt
>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:29 PM
>
>> Labelling this as OpenID seems to be hijacking the OpenID brand.
>
> And this is where you got it all wrong! Labeling this as OpenID is
giving
> the OpenID brand once last chance to offer something useful and
meaningful
> that developers actually use.
>
> Calling it OAuth Connect would result in hijacking the community. I'm
> clearly willing to do that (though my presence here should indicate my
> interest in saving the OpenID brand). The question is, is this something
> the OpenID community and board wants to risk?
>
> EHL
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