[OpenID board] Motion: allow use of OpenID trademark on Google Code (part 1 of 2)
Johannes Ernst
jernst at netmesh.us
Sat May 30 03:57:36 UTC 2009
When the OIDF was started, we explicitly decided that the OIDF would
not maintain or endorse any particular code base.
While that decision can of course be overturned, I think the rationale
for it is as good today as it was back then -- we want OpenID
supporters to agree on the spec, and compete on implementations. In my
view, that is essential for encouraging the growth of a healthy,
innovative marketplace of both products and ideas.
There is nothing wrong in my for the foundation to encourage a vibrant
OpenID open source project. Declaring it to be "the one and only"
would be a big mistake, however. The naming that's proposed implies to
me exactly that and that is worrying to me.
On May 29, 2009, at 18:40, Chris Messina wrote:
> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Martin Atkins <mart at degeneration.co.uk
> > wrote:
>
> It seems that github also satisfies all of the above requirements,
> with the advantage of making it easier to pull changes from the
> individual maintainer repositories due to github being designed with
> this in mind. Github also supports multiple repositories per
> account, so each library can have its own repository, maintainers,
> etc.
>
> Yes, but not everyone is familiar with GIT yet. SVN is much more
> widely known, I would think, in the general world of development at
> this time.
>
> I'm enamored by Github, but that doesn't mean that it's what
> everyone's using yet.
>
>
> (I'm also a little confused as to what the advantage is of having "a
> central place to check out", given that the purpose of checking out
> is to contribute changes and changes will be contributed somewhere
> else. What is the purpose of checking out a working copy of
> repository other than the one you want to ultimately commit to?)
>
> My goal is raise the visibility of the libraries and the current
> home on OpenIDEnabled.com has failed to produce a community of
> active maintainers, from what I've seen.
>
> Perhaps it's just a matter of setting up a page at http://openid.net/code
> that's a cleaned up version of http://wiki.openid.net/Libraries. I
> could certainly start there.
>
> The purpose of checking out the latest stable version of a library
> (or even latest unstable branch) is to enable folks to run the
> latest code in their projects and then update them easily when new
> versions are released. Perhaps tarballs are sufficient, but it seems
> like giving different communities like WordPress a simple place to
> do an SVN checkout from would be valuable.
>
> Feel free to tell me I'm wrong, or to support my proposal.
>
>
> Both the PHP library and the Perl library I maintain are already on
> github. I'd be happy to have the libnet-openid-perl repository on my
> github account (apparentlymart) forked into the openid account on
> github as long as someone's going to commit to maintaining that fork.
>
> Unless someone steps up, it's unlikely to happen, I guess.
>
> But therein lies the rub: we have failed to develop a community of
> maintainers for the OpenID libraries and I think we're worse off for
> it. I'm attempting to get some momentum for such a community by
> centralizing at least a listing of the libraries in a familiar place
> that developers are used to seeing.
>
> GitHub doesn't provide a way to customize the homepage of a project,
> and so we need a place that is clean, approachable, well-designed
> and is easy for someone on the board (or some other dedicated
> community member(s)) to maintain.
>
> Again, I can start with creating a page on OpenID.net, but the
> symbolic achievement of having a central repository to me somehow
> seems important, and is what is motivating my desire to finally make
> this happen.
>
> Chris
>
>
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