[OpenID board] URGENT: New Board members motion
Dick Hardt
dick.hardt at gmail.com
Tue Nov 4 18:48:49 UTC 2008
I'll clarify for you Tony:
Community board seats = corporate board seats +1
We have approved adding 5 more corporate board seats.
On 4-Nov-08, at 11:27 AM, Anthony Nadalin wrote:
> I'm against a vote as it seems there is no clarification of how many
> board members there will be, or the ratio of board to community
> members.
>
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> <graycol.gif>"Drummond Reed" ---11/04/2008 11:39:23 AM---+1 to all
> Brian’s points here. I want to clarify again that my objection last
> week was not to moving forward on this – I am v
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> Re: [OpenID board] URGENT: New Board members motion
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> +1 to all Brian’s points here. I want to clarify again that my
> objection last week was not to moving forward on this – I am very
> supportive of adding additional corporate board members immediately
> -- it was only to the difficulty of closing what turned out to be a
> contentious issue via an email vote.
>
> I am all for holding a vote this week if we want to call a meeting.
> Worst case we could hold the vote at the BOD meeting next Monday
> afternoon at IIW. (Have we set an exact time/location for that
> meeting? Will there be dial-in so all board members can participate
> if they are not at IIW in person?)
>
> Also, in terms of community board members, I would like to nominate
> Brian Kissel to join as a community board member (if he is willing
> to accept that nomination). I’d move for that vote to be held at the
> same time so he could join the board at the same time as the new
> corporate board members.
>
> =Drummond
> From: board-bounces at openid.net [mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] On
> Behalf Of Brian Kissel
> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 4:47 PM
> To: board at openid.net
> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] URGENT: New Board members motion
>
> +1 with Dick on additional corporate members. I’ve had conversations
> with BBC (Zac Bjelogrlic, Dirk-willem Van.gulik ) and PayPal (Andrew
> Nash) and know that both organizations would both like to join. I
> don’t know who else in on the list of possible new members, but if
> we have up to 5 corporate spots to fill and these two firms are
> willing to make a commitment of time and dollars, I think we should
> not delay.
>
> BBC has already shown their leadership by hosting the Content
> Provider Advisory Committee meeting in NYC several weeks ago.
> They’ve also OpenID enabled RadioPop and are looking at additional
> properties to roll out. They’ve offered to work with NPR (who was
> also at the NYC session) to see if we can get BBC, NPR, PBS, and CBC
> to collaborate on OpenID enablement initiatives. And in any case, we
> need some large representative RPs on the BOD. As I’ve said before,
> I think media companies are a next logical adopter of OpenID, so
> would welcome BBC’s membership.
>
> PayPal would also be great because they have a lot of experience in
> managing phishing and general security infrastructure and represent
> the perspective of merchants and payment infrastructure providers,
> which we need represented on the BOD if we want to continue to
> expand the applicability and value of OpenID beyond user generated
> content access.
>
> I don’t know if these are the companies we’re thinking about voting
> on near term, but if so, I would strongly endorse their membership.
> I also agree with Dick that getting the funding commitment from
> these two companies in uncertain financial times is critical and
> will actually help with hiring the new ED and coming up with a
> reasonable budget for the various initiatives we’ll want to
> undertake in 2009. For those that didn’t see Nat Sakimura’s
> announcement about OpenID Japan, they are making great progress and
> we need to have equally compelling aspirations.
>
> With respect to community membership, JanRain would certainly
> welcome the opportunity to contribute as a BOD member, but we’ll
> continue to participate via my membership on the Marketing and
> Customer Research Committee regardless.
>
> We are working with Research Media to get the OpenID membership
> polling solution working this week and the BOD election system
> working next week. Regardless of that, I don’t think we should wait
> on the BOD vote the two additional corporate members.
>
> There is a lot of good buzz going on right now with the Microsoft
> and Google announcements. If we could also announce these two new
> corporate BOD members at IIW, that we can continue to build on that
> momentum.
>
> So, IMHO, we should do the vote on the 2 additional corporate
> sponsors right now (assuming they are still willing) and finalize
> them this week. If we want to wait on community members, that’s fine
> with me.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
> ==============
> Brian Kissel
> Cell: 503.866.4424
> Fax: 503.296.5502
>
> From: board-bounces at openid.net [mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] On
> Behalf Of Dick Hardt
> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 3:54 PM
> To: board at openid.net
> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] URGENT: New Board members motion
>
> I don't see any advantage to the coupling of hiring an ED and
> bringing on new board members. Any ED is going to look at the risk
> of getting paid. Bringing in money before hand is a good sign. In
> the current economic climate, making a donation to a Foundation is
> going to come under increased scrutiny.
>
> The bylaws allow the board to appoint temporary community board
> members as need be -- something we would want to do in case someone
> needs to resign for some reason.
>
> Only bringing on corporate members one at elections does not serve
> us well. We have a product, which is membership, and we should
> remove barriers to selling it rather then raising it -- and
> requiring the timing to coincide with an election does not serve
> anyone well -- except those that want to make board membership
> exclusive.
>
> We have been working on having elections since last March.
>
> As noted in my financial report, not bringing these corporate
> members on board was a bad financial decision.
>
> -- Dick
>
> On 24-Oct-08, at 6:49 PM, DeWitt Clinton wrote:
>
> Sort of. I think we should have finished the discussion about how to
> proceed with a full five new corporate board members, timed that
> around the hiring of the new ED, and ideally scheduled all of it
> around the election of new community members. With those three
> pieces in place we then could make a coordinated engagement on all
> three. Four pieces, in fact, as we can count the CRC in there as well.
>
> I share your frustration, Dick, and I agree that sometimes a vote
> makes a good forcing function. It's taken far too long to get where
> we are, and I happen to concur that those were fine nominees. And I
> especially welcome Brian's continued leadership in any case.
>
> Hopefully this is the kick in the pants we need to close in
> expediently on the missing pieces. And then I'd welcome seeing this
> come up for a vote again in the near future.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -DeWitt
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Dick Hardt <dick.hardt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Do you have a suggestion on how this should have been done
> differently by me?
>
> I made the motion on the board call and agreed to withdraw it until
> after the membership committee report was published, and then we
> could do the vote over email. Agreed that the vote should have been
> started on the public list -- but we are here now.
>
> Do you have a new motion to bring the nominees on the board that you
> would support that we could act upon?
>
> -- Dick
>
>
> On 24-Oct-08, at 5:17 PM, DeWitt Clinton wrote:
>
> This is not a vote against any of the nominees, but procedurally and
> organizationally we can do better than this. Hence to the motion as
> it stands at this time:
>
> -1
>
> -DeWitt
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Raj Mata <rajmata at yahoo-inc.com>
> wrote:
> -1.
>
> Agree with Gary.
>
> Raj
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: board-bounces at openid.net [mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] On
> Behalf Of Krall, Gary
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 12:42 PM
> To: board at openid.net
> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] URGENT: New Board members motion
>
> -1.
>
> As we are actively in the process of recruiting for a Executive
> Director
> which my understanding is should complete shortly coupled; with the
> manner in which this vote has been requested/handled is a clear
> indication to me that adding any additional members at this time would
> not be prudent.
>
> Gary.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: board-bounces at openid.net [mailto:board-bounces at openid.net]On
> Behalf Of Dick Hardt
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:48 AM
> To: board at openid.net
> Subject: [OpenID board] URGENT: New Board members motion
> Importance: High
>
>
> (this motion was originally posted on the board-private list to
> protect the confidentiality of the potential corporate board members
> -- reposting to public list to provide transparency to community)
>
> Background:
>
> There are two corporations that have expressed interest in joining the
> OpenID Foundation for the last six months. The board approved adding 5
> new corporate board seats, to be balanced with community seats so that
> the community seats have a majority.
> Brian Kissel has been active on the marketing committee and the
> customer research committee. He organized a gathering of content
> providers in NY that led to the OpoenID UX summit last Monday.
> The primary source of funding for the Foundation is corporate board
> seats. In order to fund a new Executive Director and OpenID adoption
> initiatives, we need more funding. The patience of the two
> corporations is running thin as they have been waiting for far to long
> for a decision from the board.
>
> The motion: Add the two corporate board seats and add Brian Kissel as
> the community seat. Brian's seat (like all other community board
> seats) would be up for re-election when we hold an election.
>
> All board members need to vote or abstain for the motion to be
> considered.
>
> Votes to date:
>
> +1 Dick Hardt (made motion)
> +1 Martin Atkins (seconded motion)
> -1 David Recordon
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