[OpenID board] Revised local chapters policy
David Recordon
drecordon at sixapart.com
Thu May 8 13:06:19 UTC 2008
I actually completely disagree that accepting a local chapter policy
to then only later write a national chapter policy makes sense. Let's
get this right, it doesn't feel like we're too far away.
--David
On May 8, 2008, at 12:48 PM, Snorri wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I agree with Mike to accept quickly a simplified online "local chapter
> Policy" adapted for many chapters as possible! = to avoid brakes
> and lost
> time!
> But in this case I think we can still simplify the current version
> (and OIDF
> accept the simplifications):
> e.g.:
> #6: just: " Chapters must agree that any intellectual property or
> trademarks
> developed or held by the Chapter must be freely available for use to
> the
> OpenID Community"
> #12! Delete " nation state level"
> Etc...
>
> After (and I agree with Nat), I propose to accept an "agreement" (no
> really
> an Policy) between "National" chapters or "continental" Foundations...
> This agreement will mention all answers like translation, trademark,
> national position...
> The criteria will be examined depending the serious of this
> organization
> (IMO the list of members is the better proof)
>
> David, Dick, Nat, Drummond... agree with that?
>
> Cheers
>
> -Snorri
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : board-bounces at openid.net [mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] De
> la part
> de Nat Sakimura
> Envoyé : jeudi 8 mai 2008 08:58
> À : board at openid.net
> Objet : Re: [OpenID board] Revised local chapters policy
>
> Hi. *
> *
> Dick Hardt wrote:
>> On 8-May-08, at 8:14 AM, Nat Sakimura wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi Dick,
>>>
>>> In this respect, it comes down to the National Chapter governance
>>> structure, just same as for OIDF itself.
>>>
>>
>> exactly
>>
>>
>>> If the governance of the National Chapter is done democratically and
>>> openly, then those that are not happy with then current
>>> administration
>>> should be able to pursuade other members and correct the situation.
>>>
>>
>> potentially :)
>>
>>
>>> At the same time, the organization must have the administrative
>>> capability, since otherwise, even if the decision made by the
>>> organization is sound, it cannot be executed.
>>>
>>> So, in essence, we should
>>> 1) just define what is an appropreate governance structure for this
>>> purpose,
>>> 2) define what is an appropreate admnistrative capability
>>> and use these as the certification criteria.
>>>
>>> Actually, the same applies to OIDF itself.
>>>
>>> The content of 1) and 2) above needs more discussion, I think, in
>>> the WG
>>> level just like Mike indicated. I do not think Local Chapters policy
>>> needs to wait for the completion of such.
>>>
>>
>> So will the OIDF need to review and approve the governance structure
>> for each national chapter?
>>
> Essentially, yes, but there will not be too many as it will be first
> come first served bases then :-)
>> I understand and agree the problem can be solved -- the local chapter
>> proposal has no process for solving the issue I have raised. What
>> would you suggest we add to the proposal so that the process for
>> approving a national chapter is not arbitrary?
>>
> Well, perhaps you could add at the end of article 12. so that it reads
> like:
>
> "OIDF will recognize at most one chapter as the designated national
> chapter in a nation-state at any time according to the National
> Chapters
> Policy."
>
> --
> Nat Sakimura (=nat)
> Nomura Research Institute, Ltd.
> XDI.ORG Vice Chair
>
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