[OpenID board] CONTRIBUTION AGREEMENT
Snorri
snorri at snorri.eu
Wed Feb 27 19:03:24 UTC 2008
Sure = I am not talking technical specifications / Compared to Members
Just give full information on the websites
it's my bad English :)
Sorry
Thanks Tom
-Snorri
-----Message d'origine-----
De : board-bounces at openid.net [mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] De la part de tom calthrop
Envoyé : mercredi 27 février 2008 19:31
À : board at openid.net
Cc : david at sixapart.com; 'Nat Sakimura'
Objet : Re: [OpenID board] CONTRIBUTION AGREEMENT
Hi All,
I can't help but feel that this maybe a good moment to consider a
"Frequently asked questions" section on the web site. The question of
whether you need a contribution agreement may have a habit of repeating
itself;)
Tom
Mike Jones wrote:
> You're confusing two things. The procedures allow anyone to *implement* OpenID specifications without signing anything. Period. Nothing to do there.
>
> However, the procedures require contributors to sign a contributor agreement to participate in creating *new specifications*. This is completely different thing.
>
> Beyond making sure that this information is clear to your members, I don't believe that there's anything that OIDE needs to do here.
>
> Cheers,
> -- Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: board-bounces at openid.net [mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] On Behalf Of Snorri
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:16 AM
> To: board at openid.net; david at sixapart.com
> Cc: 'Nat Sakimura'
> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] CONTRIBUTION AGREEMENT
>
> Important: actually, many companies/websites are implemented OpenID without read juridical documents (because they didn't know that exist)
>
> At OIDE we think to propose soon:
>
> A form with process during is necessary to read all document (contributor, Members, Bylaw, IPR...) and accept a "box" exactly like a "Terms of Service/use" during the inscription on one website.
>
> After manual verification (who is?) and all documents are sent within 48 hours (in PDF and is necessary to sign it).
>
> What do you think?
>
> -Snorri
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : board-bounces at openid.net [mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] De la part de Nat Sakimura
> Envoyé : mercredi 27 février 2008 05:09
> À : david at sixapart.com; board at openid.net
> Objet : Re: [OpenID board] CONTRIBUTION AGREEMENT
>
> Hi.
>
> So does this mean that there is no document to sign to be Contributor?
> How do you know that one has agreed to the IPR policy?
> (Note: a contributor does not even need to be a member.)
>
> Regards,
>
> =nat
>
> 08/02/27 に David Recordon<drecordon at sixapart.com> さんは書きました:
>
>> This is outlined in the IPR Process: http://openid.net/ipr/OpenID_Process_Document_(Final_Clean_20071221).pdf
>> . It wouldn't hurt to streamline it into an easy to follow page or
>> something though.
>>
>>
>> --David
>>
>>
>> On Feb 26, 2008, at 9:05 AM, Drummond Reed wrote:
>>
>> > I agree with Nat -- the Contribution Agreements all work in the
>> > past. How
>> > specifically does a new working group start its work and obtain
>> > contribution
>> > agreements for new work going forward?
>> >
>> > This is fairly urgent topic as Nat and others want to propose new
>> > work and
>> > get started.
>> >
>> > Scott, can you add that to the agenda for this Thursday's board
>> > telecon?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > =Drummond
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: board-bounces at openid.net [mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] On
>> >> Behalf
>> >> Of Nat Sakimura
>> >> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:49 PM
>> >> To: board at openid.net
>> >> Cc: general at openid.net
>> >> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] CONTRIBUTION AGREEMENT
>> >>
>> >> Since this mail is rather long, here is the excecutive summary.
>> >>
>> >> (0) I want to start contributing and thus sign the contribution
>> >> agreement.
>> >> (1) The current non-assertion agreement is only for the works of
>> >> the past.
>> >> (2) Therefore, it does not work for the new contributions on a new
>> >> work
>> >> group.
>> >> (3) Which document shall I sign for making contributions?
>> >>
>> >> Following is the detail:
>> >>
>> >> http://openid.net/ipr/Non-Assertion-
>> >> Agreement/OpenID_IP_Contribution_Agreement_(Entities)_20071205.pdf
>> >>
>> >> The document is specifically for the Specifications which is defined
>> >> as in section 1 (g)
>> >>
>> >> (g) "Specifications" means solely the indicated versions of
>> >> the
>> >> following documents (each of which, as of the
>> >> Effective Date, is located at the indicated URL): (i) OpenID
>> >> Authentication 1.1 (http://openid.net/specs/openid‐
>> >> authentication‐1_1.html);; (ii) OpenID Simple Registration
>> >> Extension 1.0 (http://openid.net/specs/openid‐simple‐
>> >> registration‐extension‐1_0.html);; (iii) OpenID
>> >> Authentication 2.0
>> >> - Implementer's Draft 12
>> >> (http://openid.net/specs/openid‐authentication‐
>> >> 2_0‐12.html); (v)
>> >> Yadis Discovery Protocol 1.0
>> >> (http://yadis.org/papers/yadis‐v1.0.pdf); and (vi) OpenID
>> >> Attribute
>> >> Exchange - Draft 8
>> >> (http://openid.net/specs/openid‐attribute‐
>> >> exchange‐1_0‐08.html).
>> >>
>> >> Moreover, "Contribution" is defined in section 1(a) as
>> >>
>> >> (a) "Contributions" means any written communication made by or
>> >> on behalf of Contributor before the Effective Date and intended
>> >> for inclusion in a Specification.
>> >>
>> >> Note that Effective Date is the date of signing this agreement.
>> >>
>> >> So it does not include the future proposed specification at all, from
>> >> what I see.
>> >> To this extent, I do not think this agreement can be used to initiate
>> >> a new Work Group specified in the spec. process document. In fact,
>> >> none of us, including those who have signed this contribution
>> >> agreement can start contributing for new things at all, if my
>> >> interpretation is right (and I think I am right.)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> =nat
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2008/2/20, Nat Sakimura <n-sakimura at nri.co.jp>:
>> >>> Hi all:
>> >>>
>> >>> I have looked at:
>> >>> http://openid.net/ipr/Non-Assertion-
>> >> Agreement/OpenID_IP_Contribution_Agreement_(Entities)_20071205.pdf
>> >>>
>> >>> Looks like it is not the general case. (If I am not reading it
>> >>> wrong,
>> >> it
>> >>> only covers "the Specifications")
>> >>>
>> >>> If I were to start a WG process, the contributors need to submit
>> >>> Contribution Agreement as par IPR Policy. Which particular document
>> >>> should I submit?
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Nat Sakimura (=nat)
>> >>> Nomura Research Institute, Ltd.
>> >>>
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>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Nat Sakimura (=nat)
>> >> http://www.sakimura.org/en/
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