[OpenID board] Use of board-private list (Was: Re: Trademark problem?)

[Chris Messina]

I understand that legal matters warrant discretion, so I won't dispute that
point. In fact, it's the one valid case where I think board-private should
be used.
I appreciate that Dick has enumerated examples and cases where board-private
should be used and have recorded this list on the OpenID Fan Wiki:

https://openid.pbwiki.com/board-private

Of course, expanding that page would be great.

I understand that there are occasionally valid uses of such private
conversations, but without adequate independent oversight, or a clear scope
for use of such privileged communications, surely you can understand that
suspicions, well-founded or not, may rise from time to time.

This present case is mild on the whole, and represents a good case where any
potential legal actions should be discussed in confidence. I don't disagree
with that. But bounding the kinds of conversation that take place on the
private list to a specific set of topics or items which match a public set
of criteria is desirable, if it's not already been done.

Chris

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:36 PM, DeWitt Clinton <dewitt at google.com> wrote:

> Chris, I recommended that this conversation, since it involves legal
> matters, be moved ASAP to a closed list.  It's not about keeping anyone out
> of the loop, it's about making 100% sure you know exactly who your audience
> is when discussing potentially litigious topics.  Discussion about specific
> use of trademarks qualify here, I'm afraid.
>
> No arguments from me about other uses of board-private, btw.  We're trying
> hard to self-deprecate that list and steer all other discussion to the
> public lists.  It's taking a bit of bad habit breaking, but I know people
> (including myself) are working hard at it.
>
> -DeWitt
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Chris Messina <chris.messina at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> This sounds contradicting -- Dick, are you saying that this discussion
>> should be made public so the community it aware of it, or made private
>> because "It is often inappropriate and counter productive in negotiations
>> for your strategy and discussions to be public."
>> Which side are you advocating for?
>>
>> Frankly I think the private list should be used as a last resort, if not
>> banished altogether.
>>
>> I'm fed up with private back-door conversations with the "open" ID
>> foundation.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Dick Hardt <dick.hardt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Agree the community should be aware of issues and results.
>>> It is often inappropriate and counter productive in negotiations for your
>>> strategy and discussions to be public.
>>>
>>> -- Dick
>>>
>>> On 2-Dec-08, at 11:27 AM, Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote:
>>>
>>>  Open is King! Why hide such an important subject? It's certainly
>>> something the community and others should know about and to which results
>>> we'd come eventually!
>>>
>>>   Regards      Signer:  Eddy Nigg, StartCom Ltd.<http://www.startcom.org>
>>> Jabber:  startcom at startcom.org  Blog:  Join the Revolution!<http://blog.startcom.org>
>>> Phone:  +1.213.341.0390
>>>
>>> On 12/02/2008 07:27 PM, DeWitt Clinton:
>>>
>>> Definitely sounds like a problem.  We should discuss legal matters off
>>> the public list, however.
>>>
>>> Off topic, do Marketwatch URL's really contain unencoded '{' and '}'
>>> characters?  Someone should really point them to RFCs 1738 and 2396.
>>>
>>> -DeWitt
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Johannes Ernst <jernst at netmesh.us>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/OpenQ-Announces-Release-Breakthrough-Solutions/story.aspx?guid=
>>>> {3E32B03F-4DDD-4AC3-83F2-D02A46D39176}
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Johannes Ernst
>>>> NetMesh Inc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  http://netmesh.info/jernst
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> --
>> Chris Messina
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