<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div><div>Please see the link to the final agenda and minutes for our meeting on 2025-03-17 below, with an extract of the minutes following that.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/openid/cg-australian-digital-trust/blob/main/minutes/2025-03-17.md">https://github.com/openid/cg-australian-digital-trust/blob/main/minutes/2025-03-17.md</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><p style="margin:0px 0px 2px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><b>Minutes</b></p>
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<li style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="font-stretch:normal;font-size:9px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"></span>Welcome new members: Jon Dart - CBA David Moore - IBM IAM Asli Demirel - ConnectID</li>
<li style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="font-stretch:normal;font-size:9px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"></span>Antitrust Reminder: <a href="https://openid.net/policies/">https://openid.net/policies/</a></li>
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<li style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="font-stretch:normal;font-size:9px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"></span>Previous Actions: OIX Paper: Access to source material currently under consideration Age Assurance: Shared on Slack Use of HackMD Decision: Agreed by consensus</li>
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<p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><b>- Age Assurance</b></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal">Victoria Richardson: Typically (and aligned with the AATP initiative in Aus), age assurance is the overarching process, with Age Verification, Estimation and Inference as the methods of doing this. Assertion would imply a unilateral proposition. I'd suggest we align with the AATP terminology definition.</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal">Discussion followed regarding differentiation relative to the AATP initiative.</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal">Jo Spencer proposed that it would be great if someone defined a risk aligned "framework" of these assurance methods, and mapped different use cases to these methods and solutions. Ideally this would be the AATP, but Jo is not convinced they will. Something to watch…</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal">Dima proposed we narrow the focus of the group relative to AATP and the group agreed.</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal">Discussion followed about the relationship between this focus group and the innovation days and it was agreed that this grop would provide input to the innovation day on the same topic.</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal">Jo Spencer: Parental consent ought to be a consideration in this context. Gareth Narinesingh: Other working groups in OIDF working on this and work can be relied on.</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><br></p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">Action: Victoria Richardson recut objective and put in Slack for confirmation </span></p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">Action: All (following review of recut objective) Agree/assign tasks </span></p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">Action: Gareth Narinesingh provide links to working groups regarding parental consent</span></p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><br></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><b>- DADE</b></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal">Linden Dawson: Our working group would be a sub-group of Death & The Digital Estate (DADE) with a focus on Australian rules, regs & cultural norms.</p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><br></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><b>- Trust Frameworks</b></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal">David Hyland: Update on progress so far</p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal">Jan Vereecken: How is this related to work under SIDI Hub? Dave Hyland: Complements the work with a focus on Australia</p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal">Dima Postnikov: OIX work to be migrated to SIDI Hub with group currently forming. Technical specifications being progressed through a different stream. Some overlap between GAIN under OIDF and the working group under OIX.</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><br></p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">Action: Victoria to review TrustID documentation and share outcomes as appropriate</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><br></p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><br></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><b>- AOB</b></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><br></p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal">1. Jon Dart: What about business identity? Some work done in the UK <a href="https://cfit.org.uk/cfit-publishes-digital-company-id-plan-to-slash-fraud-saving-uk-businesses-billions-annually">https://cfit.org.uk/cfit-publishes-digital-company-id-plan-to-slash-fraud-saving-uk-businesses-billions-annually</a>. Consensus was not to constitute a sub-group but maintain visiblity. </p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">Action: Jon to see if CFIT rep could brief this group.</span></p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><br></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal">2. John Philips: UN/CEFACT are about to start a program on a "Global Trust Registry" - a spin-off of the Recommendation 49 work on Transparency at Scale and the United Nations Transparency Protocol - Jo and I are contributors to the UNTP work and I aim slated to lead the GTR work. There are (of course) significant elements of identity for all the things that supply chains are concerned about (which is a lot of things). Rec 49 is open for review until the 23rd: <a href="https://uncefact.unece.org/display/uncefactpublicreview/Public+Review+2%3A+Recommendation+No.+49%3A+Transparency+at+Scale">https://uncefact.unece.org/display/uncefactpublicreview/Public+Review+2%3A+Recommendation+No.+49%3A+Transparency+at+Scale</a> UNTP is here: <a href="https://uncefact.github.io/spec-untp/">https://uncefact.github.io/spec-untp/</a></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">Action: Agreed to pick this up in another session.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><br></p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal">Victoria: Closes the meeting</p></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Victoria Richardson<div>tel: +61 481290183</div></div></div></div></div></div>