[OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group

Mike Jones Michael.Jones at microsoft.com
Wed Jul 24 23:20:12 UTC 2013


Wait a day or so for others to chime in.  Assuming no problems arise, then have the working group page and mailing list created.  I assume that this mailing list name would be good?
	openid-specs-native-app

				-- Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul [mailto:paulmadsen at rogers.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 4:14 PM
To: John Bradley; Mike Jones
Cc: specs at openid.net; specs-council at openid.net
Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group

Yes, next steps?

John Bradley <ve7jtb at ve7jtb.com> wrote:

>Fine with me.
>
>On 2013-07-24, at 6:44 PM, Mike Jones <Michael.Jones at microsoft.com> wrote:
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>> I’m fine with that.  What about the other specs council members and proposers?
>>  
>> From: openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net 
>> [mailto:openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Chuck 
>> Mortimore
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:31 PM
>> To: Lewis Adam-CAL022
>> Cc: specs at openid.net; specs-council at openid.net
>> Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group
>>  
>> Opening discussion again to help push this to completion.
>>  
>> I'm still not comfortable with "single authorization" as I believe it's antithetical to what we actually need to build.      I do believe SSO best describes the use-cases, but I'm willing to drop it to achieve agreement.
>>  
>> How about we drop all the qualifiers and simply call it the: Native Application Working Group - it's high level and independent of implementation, other than we're working on concerns for native apps.   We can start with the current scope and it's easily re-charterable down the road.
>>  
>> -cmort
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>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Lewis Adam-CAL022 <Adam.Lewis at motorolasolutions.com> wrote:
>> +2
>>  
>> We have written our own such function as we indeed call it an “SSO client.”  It’s what developers understand.  It’s what user’s understand.  It’s what RFIs and RFPs call for.  At the end of the day a name is just a name, but I personally find the name “native single authorization agent” to be a bit confusing. 
>>  
>> Let’s think about how this is intended to be used.  An mobile user 
>> downloads a Twitter client, a Facebook client, a G+ client and some 
>> other clients.  He signs on once and gets access to their information 
>> on Twitter/Facebook/G+/other.  Developers will think of it the same 
>> way.  It’s SSO across native apps.  Imagine if the SAML WebSSO 
>> profile was named the SAML single authorization agent profile?? J
>>  
>> adam
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>>  
>> From: openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net 
>> [mailto:openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Richard 
>> Sand
>> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:00 PM
>> To: Ashish Jain
>> Cc: specs at openid.net; specs-council at openid.net
>> Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group
>>  
>> +1. The name will impact potential adoption, foolish to think it 
>> +won't, and "SSO" is a commonly (mis)understood term and often 
>> +appears in business requirements, even though it is often a misnomer 
>> +or neglects other important related aspects such as log off, session 
>> +management etc. SSO is a name here, not a binding technical scope
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 18, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Ashish Jain <email at ashishjain.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I still don't understand / agree with the objection on openid-specs-native-sso. That's the intent and the primary use case. It will be far more appealing / understandable to the mobile app developers than 'single authorization agent'. 
>> -- Ashish
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>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Paul Madsen <paulmadsen at rogers.com> wrote:
>> oh and I guess I should have mentioned the plans for a PRISMA subgroup ......
>> 
>> On 7/17/13 7:51 PM, John Bradley wrote:
>> Ok you have a point. NSAA then. 
>>  
>> I want it in red. 
>>  
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>  
>> On 2013-07-17, at 7:28 PM, =JeffH <Jeff.Hodges at KingsMountain.com> wrote:
>>  
>> request that the name be changed to "Native Single Authorization 
>> Agent", with the mailing list name openid-specs-nssa but "Native 
>> Single Authorization Agent" yields "nsaa" rather than "nssa", yes?
>>  
>> thus "openid-specs-nsaa" ?
>>  
>> =JeffH
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