Problem with OpenID

[John Bradley]

OK, thanks for the clarification.

John B.
On 2010-05-16, at 5:54 PM, David Recordon wrote:

> No, I'm not suggesting the work occur within the OWF. It doesn't even have the means to support doing so.  Rather that the OpenID Foundation offer the Open Web Foundation agreement as one of the IPR policies.
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> --David
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> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 5:49 PM, John Bradley <john.bradley at wingaa.com> wrote:
> I was attempting to support your ongoing commitment to open standards.
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> I do however think that doing the spec in the OWF rather than the OIDF will need to be discussed, especially if that spec will be called openID.
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> If that happens then the OIDF would need to find a new mission or perhaps be wound down and the IPR transferred out.
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> Maintaining openID 2.0 is not something that justifies running a foundation for if things pass it by.
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> I know you were one of the founders of the OIDF and involved in structuring the IPR.
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> Are you saying that the OIDF is not your first choice for new work?
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> John B.
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> On 2010-05-16, at 12:01 PM, David Recordon wrote:
> 
>> I included in the FAQ that I intend to submit this as a Working Group if the community thinks that would be a useful thing to do.
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>> From an IPR perspective the OpenID Foundation's policy is arcane at this point and I'd rather see us just adopt the Open Web Foundation's policy. I think you can look at Facebook's track record around participating though; we've signed an Open Web Foundation agreement for OAuth WRAP, are participating under the IETF's IPR policy for OAuth 2.0, and released the Open Graph Protocol under the Open Web Foundation agreement from day one.
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>> Some of the Googlers have provided feedback and contributed ideas to this proposal over the past few days. I don't know if they had a chance to do a really deep dive considering it's existed for under a week. In general we plan to combine efforts at IIW.
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>> --David
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>> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:54 AM, John Bradley <john.bradley at wingaa.com> wrote:
>> David has presented a proposal for discussion.
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>> It is not an openID spec, it is not part of a WG or covered under openID IPR.
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>> I hope the appropriate work groups are chartered quickly so that this and other contributions can be accepted for consideration.
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>> I am assuming David and Facebook intend to contribute this to the OIDF WG process.
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>> I commend David for the work he has put in on this.  I know the people at Google have been working on a similar proposal.
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>> The Artifact Binding for openID 2.0 WG is chartered and has produced several drafts.   We are keeping a close eye on these proposals but can't abandon openID 2.0 compatibility.
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>> I have been on a plane from Santiago to LA since David released his discussion document.  Once I get to SF tonight I look forward to having more time to review it, before IIW starts tomorrow.
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>> We still have a ways to go before we have a final openID vNext spec.
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>> John B.
>> 
>> On 2010-05-16, at 10:40 AM, Santosh Rajan wrote:
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>>> After the release of the so called OpenIDConnect Spec in the last few hours my brains have been working overtime about it.
>>> Not that my brains are any better than the brains that have been working around here. Forgive me for expressing my views in spite of having lesser intelligence than most people around here.
>>> 
>>> The biggest problem i see with Open ID is "leadership". Let me explain this. And this is my personal opinion, so there is nothing wrong if you think i am entirely wrong.
>>> 
>>> Before I heard of OpenID i heard of other "Open" stuff like
>>> Linux - Linus Torvalds
>>> jQuery - John Resig etc etc
>>> 
>>> OpenId has no equivalent figure. There is no one to lead and guide the "Identity" community. And that is why I think the Identity community is at such a loss today. In spite of your IIW etc etc. 
>>> 
>>> I honestly think the "Identity" problem could have been solved if we had a single strong leader respected by everyone. Until then we will have the suffer the jokes perpetuated on us by all the jokers.
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