[OpenID] Finally the Shit has hit the fan!

[Santosh Rajan]

Hi Henry, I think you are doing a great job around here. Unfortunately, very
misunderstood around here. Not that I am qualified to judge your work. My
apologies!. Keep up the good work!


On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Story Henry <henry.story at bblfish.net>wrote:

>
> On 7 Jun 2010, at 19:11, Steven Livingstone-Perez wrote:
>
> > Hi Henry - Yeah - having played with FOAF+SSL it is nice, albeit a bit of
> > work is needed at the moment.
>
> yes, it is improving all the time. We really only have proofs of concepts
> for the moment, so not something that is end user ready. If the quality of
> engineering of the OpenId team would help out it would be unbeatable.
>
> > I think for that bit to get easier we either
> > need really good installers or, ideally, support by the browsers to make
> the
> > cert bits a no brainer.
>
> Did you see the video? I put it together myself, and it is my first screen
> cast so it is very clumsy. But if you get over that, you will see that
> creating
> a certificate is a one click affair. That piece could not be easier.
> http://bit.ly/axlT0s
>
> But yes browser manufacturers could do a little work and the core values of
> the
> original OpenId team at least (I have not followed the work recently) would
> be
> fulfilled. Firefox probably needs the most work at the UI level. But that
> just requires
> a bit of common sense on their part, no engineering feat. For the moment it
> is useable. Chromium (Chrome developer release) now works, and Opera is
> excellent. IE I think also works well (I don't have windows myself). That is
> also evident from the screencast.
>
> >
> > It is certainly the closest I have seen to OpenID just working in the
> > browser.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Now the very positive thing about OpenId is that it is a very important
> piece that can complement Web IDs very well. For browsers that don't support
> Web IDs, Open IDs are the
> next best thing. In fact I think that Open ID could use foaf+ssl to improve
> its protocol, so as to close that last gap.
>
> I pointed out how this can be done a while ago in "Making Open ID RESTful"
> http://markmail.org/message/oub3mhq4q4lpazwh
>
> I have updated the foaf+ssl openid section
>  http://esw.w3.org/Foaf%2Bssl#OpenID
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Henry
>
> >
> > /steven
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: hjs at bblfish.net [mailto:hjs at bblfish.net] On Behalf Of Story Henry
> > Sent: 07 June 2010 17:51
> > To: Steven Livingstone-Perez
> > Cc: 'John Panzer'; 'SitG Admin'; openid-general at lists.openid.net;
> > openid-specs at lists.openid.net
> > Subject: Re: [OpenID] Finally the Shit has hit the fan!
> >
> >
> > On 7 Jun 2010, at 18:42, Steven Livingstone-Perez wrote:
> >
> >> The idea in principal appeals but a lot seems to be dependent on
> >> browser vendor support & OpenID in the browser should really have been
> >> (and should still be [1]) a no brainer for the browser vendors - I
> >> anticipate the same level of "uptake" by them for this.
> >
> > It already works in the browser, and has for years. The problem is that
> most
> > people here don't want to look at the solution, because of fear of the
> > semantic web it seems, or some such (not sure).
> >
> >  You can see it working in this home made video
> >
> >     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iZPJBpI2Po&feature=player_embedded
> >
> >  (I welcome people coming up with better videos)
> >  The protocol is detailed here:
> >
> >     http://esw.w3.org/Foaf+ssl
> >
> >  There are some small browser improvements that could be made, though it
> > would not take long to convince some of the browsers vendors to make
> them.
> >
> > Henry
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> In short, until we can get the browsers to put social as a first class
> >> citizen (and look how long universal OpenSearch support in the
> >> browsers
> >> took) we have a battle.
> >
> >
>
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