Attribute Exchange 2.0

[Chris Obdam]

Isn't it wiser to split the schemas WG and the AX2 WG?

In the schemas WG we can decide to make it broader then OpenID, or not.

Op 18 sep 2009, om 03:06 heeft John Bradley het volgende geschreven:

> Even if we go for the big hug theory of cross protocol Attributes,   
> We will still need a schemas group for PAPE, XRD tyoes etc.
>
> John B.
> On 2009-09-17, at 7:30 PM, Breno de Medeiros wrote:
>
>> Glad to hear Dick back in this list. Dirk, could we immediately move
>> to form the AX 2.0 WG (hopefully with a membership that is
>> representative)? I believe (and not because I am a member) that the  
>> AX
>> 2.0 WG needs to be the party addressing this issue because of the
>> necessity of preserving some coherence within the AX spec. The WG
>> should make a formal proposal to either move this into the umbrella  
>> of
>> OIDF or take it out, and get the bless for spec-council for either
>> option on a reasonable time frame.
>>
>> We have numerous speculative threads in this issue. At this point,  
>> the
>> very possibility of a result (whatever it may be) appears to me as an
>> unqualified win.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Paul Trevithick <ptrevithick at gmail.com 
>> > wrote:
>>> The only difference, e.g., between an Open AX URL attribute and an
>>> IMI-infocard URL claim is who’s authoritative over minting it. The  
>>> question
>>> for the OIDF is this: Are the benefits of being able to be  
>>> authoritative
>>> over the attribute URL minting process, greater than the benefits  
>>> of letting
>>> go of that authority and increasing interoperability in the  
>>> overall open
>>> identity ecosystem?
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> PS: The ICF said, hey we need a place for folks using the IMI  
>>> protocol to
>>> know where the attribute URLs are listed. So we created [1] along  
>>> with a
>>> very light-weight email-based process for getting new URIs added.  
>>> It all
>>> works fine. This is clearly one way to answer the above question.
>>>
>>> [1] http://wiki.informationcard.net/index.php/Claim_Catalog
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/17/09 4:48 PM, "Allen Tom" <atom at yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Given that everyone using AX seems to be using axschema.org, we  
>>> should just
>>> bless it. Perhaps the OIDF should take over running it? We should  
>>> try to
>>> have an official process (hopefully very lightweight) for adding new
>>> attributes.
>>>
>>> +100 for making the urls shorter, since AX responses usually  
>>> exceed the 2KB
>>> URL limit, and have to be sent via POST, causing  UX issues.  
>>> (browser
>>> warnings if the RP doesn't support HTTPS, an extra "white page"  
>>> with the
>>> form and the button, JS dependency, etc)
>>>
>>> Allen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dick Hardt wrote:
>>>
>>> axschema.org is shorter then schemas.openid.net and implies the
>>> schemas could be used for things other then OpenID
>>>
>>> given that though, I don't have a strong preference
>>>
>>> On 2009-09-16, at 2:06 PM, John Bradley wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As I recall the idea was to move the URI to use schemas.openid.net.
>>>
>>> Is that still the preferred option from your point of view,  or do
>>> you see axshema.org continuing in some way?
>>>
>>> John B.
>>>
>>> On 2009-09-16, at 4:54 PM, Dick Hardt wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2009-09-16, at 12:28 PM, John Bradley wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dick,
>>>
>>> That includes all of the schema work and AX 2.0 documents?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All the work that Sxip Identity did. I don't recall that anyone else
>>> contributed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Who controls axschema.org now?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I do personally
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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