Request for consideration of AX 2.0 Working Group Charter Proposal

David Recordon david at sixapart.com
Sat Jan 24 22:11:01 UTC 2009 

This has been on my list to kick to the specs council but I've also been waiting for Dick to reengage since he's been such a core driver of the AX spec in the past. :) 

--David 

----- "Nat Sakimura" <sakimura at gmail.com> wrote: 
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> 
> On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 4:02 AM, Breno de Medeiros < breno at google.com > wrote: 
> 

Unfortunately, not much to report except that most appear to agree in 
> your last suggestion, which I parse as: 
> 
> Allow type.<alias> = type_schema_url to define a 'type namespace'. 
> Within that namespace it would then be possible to create an 
> extensible schema based on plain string key-value pairs. 
> 
> We need to: 
> 
> 1. Get the blessing of specs council to form a WG. I believe we have 
> addressed all concerns raised in threads in the Wiki proposal and I am 
> not sure why I have not heard from specs council back. How do we call 
> for a vote on the WG formation? 

> Right. I will kick the specs council for this one also. 
> The board is aware that specs council has not been effective and 
> starting to fix it. (There will be a board voting to start the ammendment 
> to the OpenID process shortly.) 
> 
> Guys, please raise your voices also from the community side. 
> 
> Dick, I think you still are a spec council member, so please start 
> pinging other specs council members from inside. 
> 
> Process-wise, there are four more steps involved in startgin this WG. 
> 
> 1) Specs council's recommendation 
> 2) Membership vote to form WG. 
> 3) Contributors submitting IPR agreements for this WG. 
> 4) OIDF to provide the post restricted ML and SVN repository for the WG. 
> 
> Additionally, it would be good if OIDF could supply "write controlled" 
> wiki just like OASIS Open does. 
> 
> 
> 


> 
> 2. Start writing this spec, in particular hash out the parts that are 
> in agreement so that people can start cranking on this. :) 

> Yes! 
> 
> 


> 


> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Dick Hardt < dick.hardt at gmail.com > wrote: 
> > Hey Everyone 
> > I dropped off the planet for a bit moving and getting my world setup. Have 
> > missed all the email threads on this. 
> > What have I missed out on? :-) 
> > I plan on participating heavy in the AX 2.0 spec myself. 
> > -- Dick 
> > 
> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Allen Tom < atom at yahoo-inc.com > wrote: 
> >> 
> >> I believe that one of the goals of AX 2.0 should be to maintain 
> >> backwards compatible with AX 1.0 whenever possible. 
> >> 
> >> Allen 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Mike Jones wrote: 
> >> > Can you add a clear statement to the draft charter that implementations 
> >> > already using AX 1.0 will remain compatible with the output of this working 
> >> > group? Or is backwards-compatibility with existing AX implementations not a 
> >> > goal of this work? 
> >> > 
> >> > -- Mike 
> >> > 
> >> > -----Original Message----- 
> >> > From: specs-bounces at openid.net [mailto: specs-bounces at openid.net ] On 
> >> > Behalf Of Breno de Medeiros 
> >> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 6:18 PM 
> >> > To: OpenID Specs Mailing List 
> >> > Cc: dick at skip.com ; hdknr at ic-tact.co.jp ; mgraves at janrain.com 
> >> > Subject: Request for consideration of Working Group Charter Proposal 
> >> > 
> >> > I would like to submit the following proposal for a new Working Group 
> >> > charter to your consideration, following the OpenID IPR process: 
> >> > 
> >> > The proposal charter is also available at: 
> >> > http://wiki.openid.net/Working_Groups:AX_2.0 
> >> > 
> >> > OpenID Attribute Exchange 2.0 Working Group (AX 2.0) 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Charter Proposal 
> >> > 
> >> > In accordance with the OpenID Foundation IPR policies and procedures 
> >> > this note proposes the formation of a new working group chartered to 
> >> > produce an OpenID specification. As per Section 4.1 of the Policies, 
> >> > the proposed charter is below (still liable to change during this 
> >> > feedback period). 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > I. Name 
> >> > 
> >> > Attribute Exchange Extension Working Group (AX) 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > II. Statement of Purpose 
> >> > 
> >> > Produce an updated version of the Attribute Exchange Extension. 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > III. Scope 
> >> > 
> >> > Update the Attribute Exchange Extension to include support for 
> >> > identified needs. Currently identified needs: 
> >> > 
> >> > * Provide mechanisms for RP to require, and the OP to assert, 
> >> > claims about the quality of the attributes. 
> >> > * Create an extensible registry of claim types, such as 
> >> > axschema.org for attribute types. The registry should also provide 
> >> > non-normative guidance on how claims can be validated, which will 
> >> > depend on the nature of attribute type as well as claim type. 
> >> > * Introduce a new request/response mode which, unlike fetch and 
> >> > store, allows for both transmittal of some values and request of 
> >> > others. The transmittal not necessarily has the significance of a 
> >> > "store" request (could be informative, or for requesting validation). 
> >> > * Introduce a direct communication method in both directions 
> >> > (OP<->RP), supported via discovery, for bulk exchange of attributes 
> >> > about (potentially) multiple users. 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > IV. Specifications 
> >> > 
> >> > OpenID Attribute Exchange 2.0 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > V. Anticipated audience 
> >> > 
> >> > All those interested in the obtaining attributes about users 
> >> > authenticated via OpenID. 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > VI. Language of business 
> >> > 
> >> > English. 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > VII. Method of work 
> >> > 
> >> > Mailing list discussion. Posting of intermediate drafts in the OpenID 
> >> > Wiki. Virtual conferencing on an ad-hoc basis. 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > VIII. Basis for completion of the activity 
> >> > 
> >> > The Attribute Exchange 2.0 spec final draft is delivered and the form 
> >> > of management and maintenance of the registry is established. 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Background Information 
> >> > I. Related Work 
> >> > 
> >> > Attribute Exchange (1.0), and Simple Registration. 
> >> > II. Initial Membership 
> >> > 
> >> > * Tom Allen, atom at yahoo-inc.com . Yahoo! Inc (editor) 
> >> > * Mike Graves, mgraves at janrain.com , JanRain, Inc. 
> >> > * Dick Hardt, dick at skip.com . Sxip Identity. 
> >> > * Breno de Medeiros, breno at google.com . Google, Inc. (editor) 
> >> > * Hideki Nara, hdknr at ic-tact.co.jp , Tact Communications 
> >> > * Nat Sakimura, n-sakimura at nri.co.jp (editor) 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > -- 
> >> > --Breno 
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> -- 
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> --Breno 
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> Nat Sakimura (=nat) 
> http://www.sakimura.org/en/ 
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