Yahoo available AX attrs

Chris Messina chris.messina at gmail.com
Tue Dec 8 04:43:02 UTC 2009


Can you provide an example?

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:42 PM, John Panzer <jpanzer at google.com> wrote:

> Would a single capability URL to a PoCo endpoint for the user - a
> single attribute - be a reasonable idea?
>
> On Monday, December 7, 2009, Chris Messina <chris.messina at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Sounds like something to add to PoCo... perhaps something as simple as a
> "verified" boolean added to email addresses?
> > http://portablecontacts.net/draft-schema.html#anchor4
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Brian Kissel <bkissel at janrain.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > +1 on email address metadata, many RPs definitely want this.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Brian
> > ___________
> >
> > Brian Kissel
> > CEO, JanRain - WebID and Social Publishing for User Engagement
> > Email: bkissel at janrain.com     Cell: 503.866.4424     Fax: 503.296.5502
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:
> openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Allen Tom
> > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:46 PM
> > To: Peter Watkins; Chris Obdam; openid-specs at lists.openid.net
> > Subject: Re: Yahoo available AX attrs
> >
> > Oops - I clicked send too early.
> >
> > The bad UX with AX is the security warning that most browsers display
> when
> > POSTing a form from HTTPS to HTTP, which is the case when the Yahoo OP
> > returns a lot of attributes. AX attribute names are excessively long, so
> > it's very likely that using different attribute names for
> first/last/middle
> > name will cause the response to be returned via POST. (2KB is the cutoff
> > point)
> >
> > With regards to email address - unless we're 100% sure about the email
> > address, we'd like to return metadata about the email address.
> Specifically,
> > we'd like to indicate whether or not the email address was verified, and
> if
> > so, when it was verified. This is definitely something that we'd like to
> get
> > in to AX 2.0.
> >
> > Allen
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/7/09 7:39 PM, "Allen Tom" <atom at yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It definitely makes sense to use different attributes for
> givennanme/surname
> >> so that RPs don't have to parse the string, and a few other RPs have
> also
> >> asked for it.  Our initial goal for our AX implementation was just to
> match
> >> SREG, and SREG only has a single openid.sreg.fullname attribute.
> >>
> >> We'll add support for separate first/last/middle/suffix attributes in a
> >> followup release - probably early next year. I do hope that we're able
> to
> >> standardize the attribute names, and also keep them short and compact.
> If you
> >> ask for all our supported attributes, the response will exceed 2KB,
> which
> >> requires that the response is returned via POST, causing a really bad
> UX.
> >>
> >> With regards to email address - we'd like to be able to return metadata
> about
> >> the email address w
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/7/09 7:25 AM, "Peter Watkins" <peterw at tux.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 09:16:46AM +0100, Chris Obdam wrote:
> >>>>> Chris (Obdam)  - which additional attributes would you like to see
> >>>>> available? The attributes that we¹ll be adding early next year will
> include
> >>>>> Yahoo Profile URL and account creation date. A bunch of people have
> asked
> >>>>> for Flickr Photos URL and Upcoming Profile URL, so we¹ll probably get
> >>>>> around
> >>>>> to adding those too.
> >>>> I would like to access every attr specified in de AXschema? :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> In my Yahoo profile i have provided my address (home and work). I
> would like
> >>>> to use those in a sign form somewhere else.
> >>>> Same goes for my phone numbers.
> >>>
> >>> So would I. One of the simpler goals of our Single Sign On is
> prepopulating
> >>> form fields; having postal address and phone number would be a help.
> >>>
> >>> I'd also like to see First and Last names available as separate
> attributes,
> >>> otherwise we're trying to intelligently split both "Mary Jane Parker"
> and
> >>> "Malcom Mac Murray".
> >>>
> >>> Also I would prefer that you give us the user's *primary* email
> address. In
> >>> my Yahoo profile, my Yahoo email address is flagged as "Share with no
> one"
> >>> and I have a different email address flagged as primary, but your AX
> sends
> >>> my yahoo email address. Th--
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