Do We Agree on the Problem We're Trying to Solve?

Johannes Ernst jernst+openid.net at netmesh.us
Fri Jun 8 21:06:08 UTC 2007


And then vote by majority?
Be safer the more distinct OpenIDs you own and make globally  
correlatable?

While I don't particularly like this approach (and I understand you  
are not proposing it to solve B), come to think of it, I would think  
this would also address A -- no worse than what it does for B.


On Jun 8, 2007, at 12:33, Dick Hardt wrote:

> Multiple, redundant identifiers solves B without requiring a master
> directory.
>
> On 8-Jun-07, at 11:06 AM, Johannes Ernst wrote:
>
>> Such as?
>>
>> On Jun 8, 2007, at 10:55, Dick Hardt wrote:
>>
>>> There are ways to solve B that don't really solve A.
>>>
>>> In fact, I think the only way to solve B that does not require a
>>> master directory is orthogonal to solving A.
>>>
>>> -- Dick
>>>
>>> On 8-Jun-07, at 10:49 AM, Johannes Ernst wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would suggest that any solution to B is also very likely a
>>>> solution to A.
>>>>
>>>> Anybody disagree?
>>>>
>>>> If so, I'd suggest that we should either solve A and B at the same
>>>> time, or not at all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 8, 2007, at 10:42, Dick Hardt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> At IIW we[1] decided we wanted to solve (A) and that (B) would be
>>>>> nice to solve, but we were ok to wait for a future version to
>>>>> resolve, as when we discussed (B), resolving looked much harder
>>>>> then
>>>>> it seemed at first.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not certain of where we are now.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Dick
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] those present when we met about how to solve recycling ...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8-Jun-07, at 10:35 AM, Recordon, David wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure if we all think we're trying to solve the same
>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>> The two problems that have been discussed are:
>>>>>> A) Identifier recycling normally in large user-base deployments.
>>>>>> i.e.
>>>>>> <insert big company> needs a way to give 'TheBestUsernameEver'
>>>>>> to a
>>>>>> new
>>>>>> user if it has not been used in some period of time.
>>>>>> B) Losing control of your own domain name whether that be via
>>>>>> someone
>>>>>> stealing it or just that you don't want to have to pay for it
>>>>>> forever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have we made a decision as to if we're looking for a solution to
>>>>>> solve
>>>>>> both of these problems, only A, or only B?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --David
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