Questions about OpenID Attribute Properties Draft 1

[Barry Ferg]

Thanks Drummond, well put.

Frank, the document is in the preliminary draft stages and we clearly  
have some work to do.  Your points are all well taken.  We should  
have a second draft ready soon that will address these and other issues.

On 3-Oct-06, at 2:17 PM, Drummond Reed wrote:

> Frank,
>
> +1 to all your points about this proposed vocabulary.
>
> It's not that the submission is lacking, it's just that even with what
> appear to be the very simplest types of data, the issues of  
> classification
> and categorization become exponentially complex very fast. For  
> example, the
> OASIS Customer Information Quality (CIQ) Technical Committee's  
> Extensible
> Name and Address Language (xNAL)
> (http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=ciq) is  
> designed
> to support:
>
>     * Addresses of 241+ Countries
>     * Represented in 5,000+ languages/dialects
>     * With 130+ Address Formats, and
>     * With 36+ Personal Name formats
>
> (This all from their FAQ at http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ 
> ciq/faq.php
> -- highly recommended for background on why the subject is so  
> complex.)
>
> I believe that with regard to data interchange vocabulary, OpenID  
> must, just
> like with all its other specs, take a road that is "as lightweight as
> possible but no lighter" (to paraphrase one of my favorite Einstein  
> quotes).
>
> Figuring out exactly where/how to reach that golden state with  
> regard to
> vocabulary is where the rocket science lies.
>
> =Drummond
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: general-bounces at openid.net [mailto:general- 
> bounces at openid.net] On
> Behalf Of Frank I. Reiter
> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:01 PM
> To: general at openid.net
> Cc: specs at openid.net
> Subject: Questions about OpenID Attribute Properties Draft 1
>
> Barry Ferg wrote:
>> The first draft of the OpenID Attribute Properties specification has
>> been posted to
>> "http://openid.net/specs/openid-attribute-properties- 
>> list-1_0-01.html".
>>
> Perhaps some of this has been discussed to death already,  
> somewhere, and
> if so please forgive me.  Here are a few questions that come to  
> mind as
> I read this spec.
>
> Why are address elements grouped by type rather than by address?  (IE,
> why is it contact/postalcode/home rather than contact/home/postalcode?
>
> Why are email addresses listed under Internet (/contact/internet/ 
> email)
> but IM and web based contact information is not?
>
> Did you consider personal/business/etc. email addresses?   
> Classifying my
> email addresses this way is at least as important to me as classifying
> my telephone numbers this way.
>
> Frank.
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