<div dir="ltr">Sorry about that. <div><br></div><div>Connect WG started at 4pm, which terminated our call. </div><div>From the next call, we should try to wrap up at around 3:55pm. </div><div><br></div><div>Best, </div><div><br></div><div>Nat</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-08-04 8:01 GMT+09:00 Adam Dawes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:adawes@google.com" target="_blank">adawes@google.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>I think we all got booted from the call because another workgroup was starting. So, don't bother reconnecting and we'll catch up where we left off next week.</div><div><br></div><div>thanks,</div><div>AD</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Adam Dawes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:adawes@google.com" target="_blank">adawes@google.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>Here's a combined agenda for today (3pm PDT) and notes from last week.</div><div><span><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-weight:bold;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">Aug 3</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial;font-size:14.6667px;font-weight:bold;white-space:pre-wrap;line-height:1.38;background-color:transparent">Agenda</span><br></p><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:14.6667px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">Membership update</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:14.6667px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IRLxqRkWoKAb6lXjgn2QUzcD_D5QSNU6BQc1gi8_L34/edit" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">Sirtfi</span></a><span style="font-size:14.6667px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent"> effort</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:14.6667px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o1aB5INXE4xlixhANwiurHemg0_GB06Sf095GeigTyE/edit#heading=h.9q83cspgiqmx" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">Strawman Spec Review</span></a></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:14.6667px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">Adam results on Google abuse/hijacking systems. Internal conversations within Google.</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:14.6667px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">Nat review of ISO 29100</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:14.6667px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">Other comment review (John Lyle)</span></p></li></ul></ul><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-weight:bold;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">July 27</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-weight:bold;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">Attendees</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">Adam Dawes, Andrew Nash, John Bradley, Henrik Biering, Anton Taborszky, Nov Matake, John Lyle, Alex Weinert, Vicente Silveira, Josh Aberant, Lev, Miguel</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-weight:bold;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">Agenda</span></p><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:14.6667px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">Membership update</span></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:14.6667px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">New member, Leif Johansson - SUNET. Have a </span><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IRLxqRkWoKAb6lXjgn2QUzcD_D5QSNU6BQc1gi8_L34/edit?usp=sharing" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">proposal</span></a><span style="font-size:14.6667px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent"> in the same space as RISC/STIX/TAXII</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:14.6667px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">Josh Aberant from Twitter joining call. Twitter is finalizing IPR contribution.</span></p></li></ul><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:14.6667px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">Blog post </span><a href="http://openid.net/2015/07/23/introducing-risc-working-together-to-protect-users/" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">completed</span></a></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:14.6667px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">Continued </span><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o1aB5INXE4xlixhANwiurHemg0_GB06Sf095GeigTyE/edit#" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">Strawman spec review</span></a><span style="font-size:14.6667px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent"> </span></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:14.6667px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">Alex- want to push forward specifically on the compromised case. For Microsoft, there is limited window between when account is tagged as hijacked and when session ends [mean time 12h]. So, from a signalling standpoint, sending the hijacked message is almost the same as sending the “all clear” message. </span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:14.6667px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">Adam- Google works differently. There could be a long interval between when we mark an account as hijacked and when the user re-establishes their credentials. [AI: Adam to learn more about the specifics around Google’s account hijacking/recovery logic]. </span></li></ul></ul><div><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap"><b>Call in info</b></span></font></div><div><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">1.  Please join my meeting.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><a href="https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/576653581" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Arial;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/576653581</span></a></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">2.  Use your microphone and speakers (VoIP) - a headset is recommended. Or, call in using your telephone.</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">United States: </span><span style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(17,85,204);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="tel:%2B1%20%28312%29%20757-3119" value="+13127573119" target="_blank">+1 (312) 757-3119</a></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Australia: </span><span style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(17,85,204);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="tel:%2B61%202%209091%207603" value="+61290917603" target="_blank">+61 2 9091 7603</a></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Austria: +43 (0) 7 2088 0716</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Belgium: +32 (0) 28 08 4372</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Canada: </span><span style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(17,85,204);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="tel:%2B1%20%28647%29%20497-9380" value="+16474979380" target="_blank">+1 (647) 497-9380</a></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Denmark: +45 (0) 69 91 84 58</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Finland: +358 <a href="tel:%280%29%20931%2058%201773" value="+81931581773" target="_blank">(0) 931 58 1773</a></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">France: +33 (0) 170 950 590</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Germany: </span><span style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(17,85,204);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="tel:%2B49%20%280%29%20692%205736%207300" value="+4969257367300" target="_blank">+49 (0) 692 5736 7300</a></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Ireland: +353 (0) 15 133 006</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Italy: +39 0 699 26 68 65</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Netherlands: +31 (0) 208 080 759</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">New Zealand: </span><span style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(17,85,204);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="tel:%2B64%209%20974%20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