[Openid-specs-risc] RISC WG Meeting 2/12

Adam Dawes adawes at google.com
Mon Feb 12 18:39:03 UTC 2018


Attendees: Phil Hunt, Roshni Chandrasekhar, Annabelle Backman, Luke Camery,
Adam Dawes, Henrik Biering

*Legal Summary*

   - Over 20 people and 10 companies represented
   - Offered presentation to bring everyone up to speed on efforts
   - Working on generic bi-lateral agreement which will then be made public
   for re-use by the community. Google collaborating directly with Amazon
   right now on draft to bring to the WG to be adopted. Any two parties are
   free to modify the agreement as they would like. Google's plan is to not
   negotiate further after this initial draft is finalized.

*Spec Feedback*
Phil had some concerns about the management API.
AI: Phil to send specific points he wants to bring up to the list.

*"Verified" attribute for add/remove subject*
Verified attribute outside the subject identifier was previous agreement.
This might not always work. If we have ID Token subject type along with
others in the subject, it is not clear which claim verified pertains to.

Let's have a more rigorous definition of what verified means. Can't come up
with a definition that doesn't meet with how most providers have
implemented- many may not exactly know the verification method or time.

Proposed definition: Service provider has verified an account if they have
sent a message (email, SMS) to the user's address and the user has
acknowledged the receipt from the service provider by replying back to the
service provider by clicking a link or entering a code at the service
provider.

Questions: Does a marketing email with a click on a link work? Is a receipt
where the recipient can dispute the transaction but doesn't do so an
indication that the account is verified?

*One or many streams*
Discussion about what should live in RISC and what should live in SecEvents.
Phil believes some items in Marius' drafts should live in SecEvents.
Commentary that this was brought up in SecEvents already by Annabelle and
the group did not take it up. RISC trying to define something to meet our
base cases. No objection if that later is taken to SecEvents but want to
unblock now.

*Future Meetings*
Group agreed that we would have an additional meeting on Wednesday
afternoon this week. Luke will schedule.
At that meeting we will find a time for a meeting next week given Monday is
a US holiday.
After next week, we will move to a weekly meeting cadence on Mondays.


On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 8:10 PM, Luke Camery <lcamery at google.com> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> The RISC working group will meet tomorrow at 09:30 PST.
>
> *Agenda*
> 1. Recap of legal summit
> 2. Discussion of Marius' RISC Profile draft:
> - "verified" attribute for add/remove subject
> - discovery URL, path before or after .well-known
> - one or many streams
>
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>
> Thanks,
> Luke
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