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<p>Happy new year to all of you !<br>
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<p>Nicolas and I are going too.</p>
<p>Charles.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 30/12/2016 à 15:00,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Axel.Nennker@telekom.de">Axel.Nennker@telekom.de</a> a écrit :<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
am going<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Openid-specs-mobile-profile
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:openid-specs-mobile-profile-bounces@lists.openid.net">mailto:openid-specs-mobile-profile-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Bradley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 28, 2016 4:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nicolas.aillery@orange.com">nicolas.aillery@orange.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openid-specs-mobile-profile] MODRNA
WG minutes Call on dec 14th 2016<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I am just catching up on things after my
Vacation. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I haven't had a chance to talk to Joerg
yet.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I hope we can work on this over the next
couple of weeks. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I won’t be at the London workshop myself.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Who is going from the WG?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">John B.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Dec 21, 2016, at 1:41 PM, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nicolas.aillery@orange.com">
nicolas.aillery@orange.com</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hello
Jörg and John,</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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There will be a GSMA workshop in London on
January 10</span><sup><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">th</span></sup><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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We’ll discuss about “MC Authorise” product, CIBA
and User Questioning, and we’ll need a clear
position from the OIDF on how should “MC
Authorise” be handled by OIDF standards.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Do you think you can provide us with first results
of your study (i.e. “Jörg and John will work on
writing down the CIBA use case, and sort out the
binding message and context parameters situation,
and describe whether UQ or CIBA are concerned”)
before this workshop?</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Nicolas</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">_____________________________________________<br>
<b>De :</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>CLEMENT
Philippe IMT TECHNO<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Envoyé :</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>mercredi
14 décembre 2016 18:17<br>
<b>À :</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Torsten.Lodderstedt@telekom.de">Torsten.Lodderstedt@telekom.de</a>;<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<b>Objet :</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>MODRNA
WG minutes Call on dec 14th 2016</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Dear
all,</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Please
find below the preliminary minutes of our call.
Any error, misunderstanding, please let me know.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
name="BM_BEGIN"></a><u><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Participants:</span></u><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Torsten,
Petteri, Philippe, Nicolas, Jörg, Siva, Bjorn,
Gonzalo<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Agenda:<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></u><span
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Move
draft specs UQ, CIBA, account portability and
Authentication to implementers draft<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Asynchronous
notification mode, Petteri proposal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Torsten
first announces his leaving of DT and of Chairman
position of the MODRNA OIF WG. Makes a proposal
for Bjorn to handover the position (to be held by
a MNO representative). No objection is heard on
the call and Bjorn is consensually agreed to chair
the MODRNA WG.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Many
thanks to Torsten for having chaired this MODRNA
WG and best wishes for his next future in the
startup agile environment !<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Discussion</span></u><span
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Implementers
draft</span></b><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Torsten
proposal to move UQ, CIBA, account porting and
Authentication in the Implementers draft status.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Remarks
done on the lack of Use Cases in CIBA specs that
could have helped to better understand the
document, and avoid ambiguities and
misinterpretations on the objectives of the specs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Gonzalo
mentions his working on the topic. <span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Torsten
proposal is to write into the document that CIBA
is specified for backchannel server
authentication, being the same as OIDF core 1.0,
but for backchannel authentication.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Some
cases are show during the call. Questions arise
about the Use Cases that could influence the text
displayed on the user authentication device,
especially from SP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">It
is important to separate backchannel
authentication from transaction
acknowledgement. <span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Jörg
and John will work on writing down the CIBA use
case, and sort out the binding message and context
parameters situation, and describe whether UQ or
CIBA are concerned.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Petteri
proposal</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Two
proposals were made to the list for asynchronous
notifications:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">HTTP
level polling generalizing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Callback
mechanism, defined in Paris meeting where push
turned into pull method<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Question
is raised about John’s proposal to “generalize”
notification (pull or push) across the OIF global
specifications. We will first try to sort out the
question for MODRNA specs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Someone
with good knowledge of HTTP mechanisms would be
appropriate to take over the work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Having
this question solved in a generic manner in MODRNA
WG will help then to adapt UQ and CIBA specs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Petteri
volunteers for describing precisely and document his
proposal, mentioning the pros and cons of each
method.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Best
regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Philippe</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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