<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">One thing for people not on the call.  I think the name is a bit confusing. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In SAML and Connect we do have Authentication server initiated login.  </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This is like all of the normal flows still Client initiated login in that the RP is initiating it. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The difference is that the client is initiating it via a direct back channel call to the AS rather than via a redirect in the users browser.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think server initiated login is probably a touch to vague a name. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Something like “Client initiated Backchannel Authentication”  may give people a clearer idea bout what the spec is trying to do.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">John B.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 12, 2016, at 8:26 AM, Torsten Lodderstedt <<a href="mailto:torsten@lodderstedt.net" class="">torsten@lodderstedt.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
  
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    I hope the draft will explain those use cases ;-)<br class="">
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 11.08.2016 13:34, schrieb Arne Georg
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 12:15 PM, <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Torsten.Lodderstedt@telekom.de" target="_blank" class="">Torsten.Lodderstedt@telekom.de</a>></span>
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                        <li class="">Gonzalo and Florian presented the first
                          draft (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/mobile/raw/75ca37860ae1fe90b085d32ad88507e82e2f374f/draft-mobile-server-initiation-01.txt" target="_blank" class=""><font color="blue" class=""><u class="">https://bitbucket.org/openid/<wbr class="">mobile/raw/<wbr class="">75ca37860ae1fe90b085d32ad88507<wbr class="">e82e2f374f/draft-mobile-<wbr class="">server-initiation-01.txt</u></font></a>)
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                        <li class="">All WG members are asked to review it and
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              <div class="">Do we have a higher-level document that explores the
                use cases that the server-initiated authentication
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              <div class="">Thanks,<br class="">
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              <div class="">Arne.<br class="">
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