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Hi Philippe,<br>
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there must be a way for a RP to indicate to the OP to turn on the
MODRNA/Mobile Connect authentication machinery. Using the ACR values
for that purpose seems the be the natural choice. So if ACR values
are the only way to request MODRNA authentication, the respective
parameter must be MANDATORY. <br>
<br>
best regards,<br>
Torsten.<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 19.11.2015 um 17:22 schrieb
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<div><font color="#1F497D">Dear all, dear Jorg</font></div>
<div><font color="#1F497D"> </font></div>
<div><font color="#1F497D">Maybe you discussed this subject
during the Nov 11<font size="1"><span
style="font-size:7.3pt;"><sup>th</sup></span></font>
call that I didn’t attend, but I would like to have
confirmation of the reasons why “acr_values” are
considered
as “REQUESTED”. </font></div>
<div><font color="#1F497D">Can someone remind me with the
consequences of putting this parameter to “OPTIONAL” ?</font></div>
<div><font color="#1F497D"> </font></div>
<div><font color="#1F497D">Thanks a lot</font></div>
<div><font color="#1F497D">Philippe</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-size:10pt;">_____________________________________________<br>
<b>De :</b> CLEMENT Philippe IMT TECHNO <br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> jeudi 19 novembre 2015 15:15<br>
<b>À :</b> Lodderstedt, Torsten;
'<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net</a>'<br>
<b>Objet :</b> MODRNA WG Call 18 Nov 15 preliminary
notes</span></font></div>
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<div> </div>
<div><font color="#1F497D">Dear all,</font></div>
<div><font color="#1F497D"> </font></div>
<div><font color="#1F497D">Please find below the preliminary
notes of our call on 18 11 15. Please send me any
feedback in case of needed adjustments</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font color="#1F497D"><u>Participants:</u> <a
moz-do-not-send="true" name="BM_BEGIN"></a>Bjorn, John,
Jorg, Nat, Philippe, Torsten,<font color="black"> </font>Matthieu</font></div>
<div><font color="#1F497D"> </font></div>
<div><font color="#1F497D"><u>Agenda: </u></font></div>
<ol style="margin:0;padding-left:54pt;">
<font color="#1F497D">
<li>Authentication document</li>
<li>AOB</li>
</font>
</ol>
<div><font color="#1F497D"> </font></div>
<ol style="margin:0;padding-left:36pt;">
<font color="#1F497D">
<li><u>Authentication document</u></li>
</font>
</ol>
<div><font color="#1F497D"> </font></div>
<div><font color="#1F497D">Discussion around ISO-29115: </font></div>
<div><font color="#1F497D">Authentication document mentions
that it relies on ISO-29115.</font></div>
<div><font color="#1F497D">This ISO doc is however larger than
the MODRNA scope, and addresses Identity proofing,
Authentication proofing and Identity management.</font></div>
<div><font color="#1F497D"> </font></div>
<div><font color="#1F497D">On another hand, the authentication
document mentions explicitly the 4 levels of assurance. It
is mentioned that the eIDAS rules will rely on 3 levels
(low, substantial, high) and that mentioning the 4 levels
in MODRNA could lead
to ambiguities regarding the usage of MODRNA in Europe.</font></div>
<div><font color="#1F497D"> </font></div>
<div><font color="#1F497D">John will propose an update of this
part in the following days.</font></div>
<div><font color="#1F497D"> </font></div>
<ol start="2" style="margin:0;padding-left:36pt;">
<font color="#1F497D">
<li><u>Security discussions</u></li>
</font>
</ol>
<div><font color="#1F497D">Exchanges about OAuth and OIDC
specific threats, use of code flow and ID token, nonce
usage, AS impersonation and front channel code injection.</font></div>
<div><font color="#1F497D">Discussions to continue offline on
serious attacks and countermeasures as security
recommendations for implementing are required.</font></div>
<div><font color="#1F497D"> </font></div>
<div><font color="#1F497D">Jorg to make the feedback to GSMA
regarding MODRNA work on security </font></div>
<div> </div>
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