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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">No problem – just add your examples (my ears are getting worse
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">L</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> philippe.clement@orange.com [mailto:philippe.clement@orange.com]
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 23. September 2015 18:16<br>
<b>An:</b> Lodderstedt, Torsten<br>
<b>Cc:</b> openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> RE: MODRNA WG Call preliminary notes Sept 23rd 2015<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Torsten,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I mentioned specific acr/amr combinations for RP using Mobile Connect features when reformulating #27</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If it’s not the case, sorry for the misunderstanding, feel free to provide the right terms. Otherwise we can discard this additional text.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Kind regards,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">De :</span></b><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Lodderstedt, Torsten [<a href="mailto:t.lodderstedt@telekom.de">mailto:t.lodderstedt@telekom.de</a>]
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<b>Envoyé :</b> mercredi 23 septembre 2015 18:05<br>
<b>À :</b> CLEMENT Philippe IMT TECHNO<br>
<b>Cc :</b> <a href="mailto:openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<b>Objet :</b> AW: MODRNA WG Call preliminary notes Sept 23rd 2015</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Philippe,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">thanks for compiling the minutes.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">One remark: I can’t remember us discussing about acr/amr combinations.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">best regards,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Torsten.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:philippe.clement@orange.com">philippe.clement@orange.com</a> [<a href="mailto:philippe.clement@orange.com">mailto:philippe.clement@orange.com</a>]
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 23. September 2015 17:53<br>
<b>An:</b> Lodderstedt, Torsten; <a href="mailto:openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net">
openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> MODRNA WG Call preliminary notes Sept 23rd 2015</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a name="BM_BEGIN"></a>Torsten, Philippe, Joerg, John, Matthieu</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Agenda:  Authentication specs</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> (Joerg)</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">#15 Amr request parameter</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">: no actual requirement</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">#16 max_age</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">:  Difficult topic in the way of Risk analysis, multi factor authentication</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Second factor use case is better addressed using PROMPT=login (in combination w/ ACR), ACR is generally better suited</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">#31 What happens if login_hint and login_hint_token are both provided</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration,<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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