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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Hi Philippe,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">my comments:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">2 a: we agreed to consider this concern and come up with proposals how to extend the discovery concept. There are proposals by Gonzalo (implicit), myself (see mailing list), and John (Account Chooser).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">2 b and c: we mainly discussed about MNOs as a single, virtual IDP and mobile phone number portability. The WG has to come up with a common understanding and meet a decision. Please add this (as
the current text describes potential solutions if the WG would agree to support these features).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Torsten.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> philippe.clement@orange.com [mailto:philippe.clement@orange.com]
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 25. September 2014 14:35<br>
<b>An:</b> openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Lodderstedt, Torsten; Connotte, Joerg<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> OIDC Mobile profile call Sept 24th: preliminary notes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear all,</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Please find below the preliminary notes of our call “OpenID Connect profile for mobile”</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">If you have any remark on these notes, please let me know before Friday Sep 26<sup>th</sup> EOB. Final notes will then follow with potential modifications
</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span lang="EN-US">Participants:</span></u><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Gonzalo Fernandez, Telefonica</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Bjorn Hjelm, Verizon</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Gautam Hazari, GSMA</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Torsten Lodderstedt, Deutsche Telekom</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Sebastian Ebling, Deutsche Telekom</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Tim Bray, independent</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Jörg Connotte, Deutsche Telekom</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">John Bradley, Ping Identity</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR">Philippe Clément, Orange<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR">Nat Sakimura, NRI<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span lang="EN-US">Agenda:</span></u><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="FR"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Comments to initial submission</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="FR"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Questions raised by Gonzalo</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="FR"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Meeting frequency</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span lang="EN-US">Decisions:</span></u><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="FR"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">3 documents will be managed from initial proposal: Discovery – registration – Authentication</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="FR"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US"> Jorg, Bjorn, John volunteered for editor roles</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="FR"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Stories or user journey to sketch to fix the scope of the WG (TIM volunteered)</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="FR"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Discussions to continue on the mailing list</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span lang="EN-US">Discussion:</span></u><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="FR"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><b><span lang="EN-US">Comments to initial submission</span></b><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">DT submission is considered as a good starting point.
</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">3 documents will be managed from initial proposal: Discovery – registration – Authentication</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">3 volunteers for editor roles: J<span style="color:#1F497D">ö</span>rg, Bjorn, John</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="FR"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><b><span lang="EN-US">Questions raised by Gonzalo</span></b><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang="FR"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">a.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Keep the user identifier hidden from the RPs</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt;text-indent:16.8pt"><span lang="EN-US">MSISDN will probably be a major identifier in the mobile operator world. Different cases to have in mind: the RP already knows the MSISDN (in this case, it can push it to
simplify user journey) or not. </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang="FR"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">b.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Choosing Mobile Connect authentication on a SP page triggers an “internal” discovery process</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:99.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Questions about portability and considering multiple MNOs (OP) raised, and if the discovery service internal working is in the scope of the WG</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang="FR"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">c.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Implicit discovery in the middle of an OIDC auth request</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang="FR" style="font-family:Wingdings"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">è<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Discussions to go on the mailing list</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:117.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang="FR" style="font-family:Wingdings"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">è<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Stories or user journey to sketch to fix the scope of the WG (TIM volunteered)</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><b><span lang="EN-US">Meeting frequency</span></b><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Meetings will occur bi-weekly</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Kind regards,</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Philippe</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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