[Openid-specs-mobile-profile] CIBA Issues Review: Feedback for #62

nicolas.aillery at orange.com nicolas.aillery at orange.com
Fri Mar 9 09:30:48 UTC 2018

Hello Gonzalo,

   Here are two remarks about your proposal :

-       I think using the wording ‘spam-code’ to describe an *anti*spam code will introduce some confusion.

-       I’m not sure it’s a good idea to expose the antispam code on CIBA. This code is similar to a user password, so it should be a secret between a user and his MNO. It was created to protect the user in a situation where anybody was able to enter any MSISDN on a public form (e.g. the GSMA discovery page before an OpenId Connect interaction). In CIBA, it’s the SP that will call CIBA, so using an antispam code implies that the secret is also shared amongst all SP (is this still a secret?). On another hand, is there still a spam risk in CIBA? Yes, if SP allow any user to enter any MSISDN, but in this situation the SP should use the classic OpenId Connect flow (because the user is already using the SP to be able to enter a MSISDN). No, if the SP uses CIBA as a second factor. My proposal is that CIBA does not implement antispam code, and that MNO does not check the antispam code when CIBA is used.

   What is your point of view about this proposal?

Best regards,

De : Openid-specs-mobile-profile [mailto:openid-specs-mobile-profile-bounces at lists.openid.net] De la part de GONZALO FERNANDEZ RODRIGUEZ
Envoyé : vendredi 2 mars 2018 14:40
À : openid-specs-mobile-profile at lists.openid.net
Objet : [Openid-specs-mobile-profile] CIBA Issues Review: Feedback for #62

Hi all,

I continue asking you for feedback about another CIBA issue, in that cases is the #62 https://bitbucket.org/openid/mobile/issues/62/ciba-support-for-spam-prevention-code-in

The spam-code belongs to the end-user, so it should be configured by the end-user in the OpenID Provider.
The CIBA flow doesn't have an interactive session with the end-user, but is the user who is contacted directly in his authentication device, what means that the end-user won't have the possibility to introduce the spam-code in his authentication, so, it only could be done by the Client.

We think that it would be possible to add support for that in CIBA as follow:

1.            A new OPTIONAL field "spam-code" in the CIBA authentication request.
2.            An specific error in case of the end-user had the anti-spam activatedin the OIDC and the Service Provider didn't include it in the authentication request.

It is worth it to highlight that this would be an optional feature implemented by the OIDC's and it should be "out of the scope" of CIBA to define how the end-user would share the spam-code with the Service Provider and how the end-user would configure the spam-code in the OIDC.

I would like to know again your point of view on that in order to resolve this issue.



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