[Openid-specs-heart] HL7 Ballot

Mon Aug 15 16:56:30 UTC 2016

John,

Please have some consideration for me and the other members of HEART that
are not on anyone's payroll to be here. The Consent Directive concept has
been dropped into every HEART meeting for at least 6 months now. I still
have no idea where it fits, am I alone?

Have a heart,

Adrian

PS - If HL7 has a Security workgroup, is there a Privacy workgroup as well?

On Monday, August 15, 2016, John Moehrke <johnmoehrke at gmail.com> wrote:

> Adrian, I thus will expect zero comments from you.. no problem, that is
> your choice.
>
> If others want to comment, they are also free to comment.
>
> Thank you
>
> John Moehrke
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> and Security
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>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Adrian Gropper <agropper at healthurl.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','agropper at healthurl.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Can anyone answer any of my questions?
>>
>> I maintain that Consent Directives have nothing to do with HEART and I
>> have seen no indication to the contrary.
>>
>> I agree that the Security workgroup should be important to HEART. Is
>> Security responsible for the Consent Directive work?
>>
>> Adrian
>>
>>
>> On Monday, August 15, 2016, Glen Marshall [SRS] <gfm at securityrs.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gfm at securityrs.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Adrian,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The FHIR Consent Directive resource has been a topic in the HEART
>>> discussions, so I assume it is germane.  Also, if HEART wants to influence
>>> HL7, re: UMA scopes, working with the Security workgroup is the route of
>>> entry.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Since FHIR is an API data model, not an implementation, I will not
>>> speculate about implementation matters.  That is best addressed by working
>>> directly with other HL7 participants, e.g., by submitting ballot comments
>>> and working to resolve them, submitting Change Proposals to the FHIR
>>> specification, writing and balloting implementation guides, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> FHIR also has to work with other endpoints, e.g., outpatient pharmacy,
>>> radiological services, various adjunct therapies, portable & wearable
>>> devices, etc.  There are standards workgroups for all of them, so they need
>>> to be engaged.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Glen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Glen F. Marshall
>>>
>>> Consultant
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* agropper at gmail.com [mailto:agropper at gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Adrian
>>> Gropper
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2016 11:47
>>> *To:* Glen Marshall [SRS] <gfm at securityrs.com>
>>> *Cc:* HEART List (openid-specs-heart at lists.openid.net) <
>>> openid-specs-heart at lists.openid.net>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Openid-specs-heart] HL7 Ballot
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Glen,
>>>
>>> What does the FHIR Consent Directive have to do with HEART?
>>>
>>> Right now, for example, we're trying to work on resources and scopes.
>>> What aspect of the Consent Directive should or would influence our work on
>>> resources and scopes?
>>>
>>> Another question might be: Will all FHIR endpoints support the Consent
>>> Directive? If not, and HEART has to work with all FHIR endpoints, what does
>>> that mean?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Adrian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Glen Marshall [SRS] <
>>> gfm at securityrs.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> HEART folks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If any of you have signed-up for the upcoming HL7 ballot, please closely
>>> review the FHIR Consent Directive and make comments on it.  This will help
>>> HEART to influence to outcomes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The next HL7 ballot is in January.  After the September HL7 meeting,
>>> HEART participants have an opportunity to work directly with the HL7 CBCC
>>> and Security workgroups on the September ballot comment resolutions and to
>>> help create new HEART-aligned content for the January ballot.  Of course
>>> our own work needs to be in proper shape for alignment with other health
>>> SDOs, and I hope we can hit the HL7 timeframe target.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Glen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Glen F. Marshall
>>>
>>> Consultant
>>>
>>> Security Risk Solutions, Inc.
>>>
>>> 698 Fishermans Bend
>>>
>>> Mount Pleasant, SC 29464
>>>
>>> Tel: (610) 644-2452
>>>
>>> Mobile: (610) 613-3084
>>>
>>> gfm at securityrs.com
>>>
>>> www.SecurityRiskSolutions.com <http://www.securityrisksolutions.com/>
>>>
>>>
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