[Openid-specs-heart] HEART Clinical Research UMA

Glen Marshall [SRS] gfm at securityrs.com
Sun Jan 24 01:03:17 UTC 2016


Aaron,

In response to your comments on the use case narrative:

  * All of the data including the genomic data?  It will be made
    available to whom?
      o The use case is for clinical data collected and made available
        to the clinical researchers for the study.  The nature of the
        data, e.g., genomics and other clinical results, is peripheral.
  * How will her genome be pseudonymized?
      o The specific pseudonymization (and re-identification) algorithms
        are likely to be specific to the clinical research study,
        informed by the cited standards.
  * If they can access her PHR why do they need to access the EMR as
    well?   Isn't the point of HEART that she have a complete record of
    all of her data in the PHR.   What is in the EHR that is missing
    from the PHR?  Why?
      o I have assumed the current state of data sharing among EHRs and
        PHRs.  It is peripheral to the use case.
  * This is a transitional use case that will hopefully go away one
    day.  It may be necessary for now if there is data in the EHR that
    isn't transportable to the PHR but I would hope that the day will
    come when we aren't treating the Clinical Operations software as the
    only source that inputs to the researchers data warehouse can be
    populated.  I would argue that PHR's will have more complete data
    then the two EMRs as the EMRs will lack the PGHD that could more
    readily be gathered via the PHR in comparison to forcing it to fit
    into the EMR of the Oncologist.
      o There are multiple EHRs in this use case and, while I'd like all
        EHRs and PHRs to be interoperable, they are not presently.  This
        is peripheral to the use case.
  * Am I missing something important.  Why is the patient only able to
    get a summary of the data?
      o This references reports of disclosures from the EHRs to the
        CDRN.  A disclosure report for each transmission to the CDRN is
        assumed, and that may reference multiple data sets in summary. 
        The actual content and frequency of reports is not standardized,
        and is influenced by policy outside of the use case.  This is
        peripheral to the use case.
  * [In reference to pharma's offer of a continuing access agreement and
    profit-sharing.]  Has this ever happened?  Is there anyone (from
    Pharma) proposing that they will do this?
      o That is my hypothetical resolution to the issue of subsequent
        re-use of Alice's data.  That might have been a more satisfying
        resolution to the Henrietta Lacks case.  The actual resolution
        is peripheral to the use case.

Best,
Glen

*Glen F. Marshall*
Consultant
Security Risk Solutions, Inc.
698 Fishermans Bend
Mount Pleasant, SC 29464
Tel: (610) 644-2452
Mobile: (610) 613-3084
gfm at securityrs.com
www.SecurityRiskSolutions.com

On 1/23/16 18:39, Aaron Seib, NATE wrote:
>
> Glen – I had a lot of questions that I captured as comments in the 
> attached.
>
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> *From:*Openid-specs-heart 
> [mailto:openid-specs-heart-bounces at lists.openid.net] *On Behalf Of 
> *Glen Marshall [SRS]
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 23, 2016 12:58 PM
> *To:* Sarah Squire
> *Cc:* HEART List
> *Subject:* Re: [Openid-specs-heart] HEART Clinical Research UMA
>
> Gladly!  See attached PDF.
>
> *Glen F. Marshall*
> Consultant
> Security Risk Solutions, Inc.
> 698 Fishermans Bend
> Mount Pleasant, SC 29464
> Tel: (610) 644-2452
> Mobile: (610) 613-3084
> gfm at securityrs.com <mailto:gfm at securityrs.com>
> www.SecurityRiskSolutions.com <http://www.SecurityRiskSolutions.com>
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> On 1/23/16 12:53, Sarah Squire wrote:
>
>     Hi Glen,
>
>     Your sharepoint link isn't working. Could you send a pdf to the
>     list please?
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Sarah
>
>
>     Sarah Squire
>
>     Engage Identity
>
>     http://engageidentity.com
>
>     On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Glen F. Marshall
>     <glen.f.marshall at gmail.com <mailto:glen.f.marshall at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Team,
>
>     Here is a *link
>     <https://srsmail-my.sharepoint.com/personal/gfm_securityrs_com/_layouts/15/guestaccess.aspx?guestaccesstoken=2QxXSnxuijrIbiElNuU%2bCJIV0G6FBK5uWbdt0FvvVFg%3d&docid=2_1c5c33062f8ee4dbe9dbf61ba9524ca39>*
>     to a read-only shared copy of the updated Clinical Research (UMA)
>     use case. It now contains fleshed-out business prerequisites,
>     sequence diagrams, and some minor corrections.
>
>     Please respond with your suggestions, corrections, etc.  But
>     please do not alter the document itself, as the master Word copy
>     and Visio graphics are all in my personal cloud storage.
>
>     Note I have not included the final sequence diagram -- review of
>     disclosures and modification of UMA permissions -- as I'd like to
>     discuss the proper UMA mechanisms and flow to accomplish the
>     modifications.
>
>     Also note I have specifically made the AS a singular IRB-selected
>     element within the use case.  All access control policies are
>     determined by the IRB for ongoing access, with the patient
>     consenting to them.  This also keeps HEART away from ongoing
>     political, regulatory, and policy matters that are properly out of
>     scope for our technical work.
>
>     Since I will be at the IHE Connectathon next week, I won't be on
>     our schedule 1/25 call.  Looking forward to discussions on-list
>     and in February meetings.
>
>     Best,
>     Glen
>
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