[Openid-specs-heart] Draft HEART Meeting Notes 2015-10-13

Moehrke, John (GE Healthcare) John.Moehrke at med.ge.com
Wed Oct 14 15:16:51 UTC 2015


Hi,

 

As someone who would really like to see the result be maintained in IHE, I will state that we should not be distracting ourselves with this right now. I really want to encourage progress regardless of where the specification eventually lives. There are representatives from MANY organizations participating in HEART. We all are collaborating here because we think that this is the best group to focus on this problem. I often direct people to this group because of this cross-section of representation.  Last week at the HL7 meeting I directed many people to HEART, both in broad statements and one-on-one. I truly believe that HEART has the right mixture of participation, and that no-other group has that broad of a mixture.

 

I am sure all of us would like to see the result maintained in their favorite way. I might suggest that we defer further decisions until we have something worthy of being called a specification. As Justin points out, the charter does expect that the result will be published in OIDF. 

 

Glen has simply pointed out the benefit of leveraging the IHE process…  I don’t think he suggested it as a replacement for OIDF.  Let’s just leave this as ‘knowledge shared’.

 

John

 

From: Openid-specs-heart [mailto:openid-specs-heart-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Justin Richer
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 9:43 AM
To: Glen Marshall [SRS]
Cc: openid-specs-heart at lists.openid.net
Subject: Re: [Openid-specs-heart] Draft HEART Meeting Notes 2015-10-13

 

I absolutely agree that we need to interact with other groups, even participate in their discussions and events. The connectathons are interesting opportunities and I think that HEART could have a good fit there.

 

But that doesn’t mean that our documents won’t stand on their own in OIDF. I think it’s not a logical conclusion to say that interacting with other groups leads to publishing elsewhere, and that’s the point I was trying to make.

 

 — Justin

 

On Oct 14, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Glen Marshall [SRS] <gfm at securityrs.com> wrote:

 

Justin,

One of the reasons I mentioned IHE yesterday is that there are annual events, called the Connectathons, in which people who have implemented IHE profiles test for interoperability.  The North American Connectathon happens in January.  Afterwards, Connectathon participants exhibit their working solutions in the HIMSS Interoperability Showcase.  There is a similar Connectathon in Europe.  The number of vendors in the Connectathons is impressive, and security is an essential infrastructure element for them.  This would help satisfy the pilot implementation need for HEART.    

The provenance and IP stewardship of the underlying standards for IHE is very flexible.  IHE adds healthcare use case profiling and testing.  There is also a lot of cross-membership between IHE, HL7, DICOM, and other healthcare SDOs and consortia.  It is a good portal for introducing and coordinating health IT standardization.

There is some early discussion among some IHE participants regarding an update to the Internet User Authorization (IUA) profile. <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__wiki.ihe.net_index.php-3Ftitle-3DInternet-5FUser-5FAuthorization&d=BQMFaQ&c=IV_clAzoPDE253xZdHuilRgztyh_RiV3wUrLrDQYWSI&r=B4hg7NQHul-cxfpT_e9Lh49ujUftqzJ6q17C2t3eI64&m=mSlSK1Mcs3IT1IinAZno9YG89n3UOxGVEPrweVZ8j7I&s=9g1zHONH7fdYEWNTvk57VKZp1hPsq1bZkXVX7Vnyp_c&e=>   The current profile uses RFC 6749 and 6750 as the underlying standards.  This is all related to HL7 FHIR and SMART on FHIR.  Argonaut is working on security in parallel, as is the HL7 Security Workgroup.  This is all quite relevant to HEART.

Your thoughts? 

Disclosure: I am one of the security test monitors at the annual North American Connectathon and, in the past, was very active in IHE and HL7 as well as other standardization work.
 
Best,
Glen
 

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