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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">I much prefer “Financial-grade API” to “</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Financial-grade API Protection Interoperable</span><span style="color:#002060">”.  The latter is convoluted
 and artificial, whereas the former is simpler and natural.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">                                                       -- Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Openid-specs-fapi <openid-specs-fapi-bounces@lists.openid.net>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Michael via Openid-specs-fapi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 17, 2018 2:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nat Sakimura <nat@sakimura.org>; Financial API Working Group List <openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Chris Michael <Chris.Michael@openbanking.org.uk><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I thought the idea was to keep as FAPI​ (Financial-grade API)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Head of Technology<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Open Banking<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">+44 7767 372277<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><a href="http://www.openbanking.org.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.openbanking.org.uk</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Nat Sakimura <<a href="mailto:nat@sakimura.org">nat@sakimura.org</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 May 2018 08:21<br>
<b>To:</b> Financial API Working Group List; Financial API Working Group List<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Chris Michael<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#212121">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">So, Financial-grade API Protection Interoperable?
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Or Access instead of API?
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Considering that people probably searches with 'API' as a search term, API seems to be a better option but I am open to both.
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<a href="https://aka.ms/ghei36">Outlook for Android</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#212121">On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 9:18 AM +0200, "Chris Michael via Openid-specs-fapi" <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net</a>>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#212121">​+1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#212121">Head of Technology<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#212121">Open Banking<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#212121">+44 7767 372277<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#212121"><a href="http://www.openbanking.org.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.openbanking.org.uk</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Openid-specs-fapi <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-fapi-bounces@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-fapi-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>> on behalf of Dave Tonge via Openid-specs-fapi
 <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 16 May 2018 15:45<br>
<b>To:</b> Financial API Working Group List<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Dave Tonge<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#212121">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#212121">On 16 May 2018 at 16:11, Brian Campbell via Openid-specs-fapi <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m-1956428878679061329gmail-im"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#212121">+1 to “financial-grade”</span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#212121">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#212121">thanks Tatsuo <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#212121">On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 8:07 AM, Mike Schwartz via Openid-specs-fapi <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ok!<br>
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On 2018-05-16 08:47, Ralph Bragg via Openid-specs-fapi wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#212121">In support of Mike, - Acknowledging where this spec came from with<br>
“financial-grade” really ticks all the boxes for me. +1<br>
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FAPI is everywhere in the OB specs (obviously) and there would be a<br>
live ecosystem impact to change all references.<br>
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FROM: Openid-specs-fapi <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-fapi-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-fapi-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>><br>
on behalf of n-sakimura via Openid-specs-fapi<br>
<<a href="mailto:openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net</a>><br>
REPLY-TO: Financial API Working Group List<br>
<<a href="mailto:openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net</a>><br>
DATE: Wednesday, 16 May 2018 at 14:14<br>
TO: Financial API Working Group List<br>
<<a href="mailto:openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net</a>><br>
CC: n-sakimura <<a href="mailto:n-sakimura@nri.co.jp" target="_blank">n-sakimura@nri.co.jp</a>><br>
SUBJECT: Re: [Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI<br>
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<chair hat off><br>
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And it tells people that it is a high security profile that is usable<br>
for Financial transactions and interoperable.<br>
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</chair hat off><br>
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Outlook for iOS [5] </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#212121">を入手</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#212121"><br>
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FROM: Openid-specs-fapi <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-fapi-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-fapi-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>><br>
on behalf of Mike Jones via Openid-specs-fapi<br>
<<a href="mailto:openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net</a>><br>
SENT: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 12:32:06 PM<br>
TO: Financial API Working Group List<br>
CC: Mike Jones<br>
SUBJECT: Re: [Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI<br>
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I really like Financial-grade API.  It acknowledges the original use<br>
case, keeps the acronym (which will prevent breaking spec changes,<br>
since the acronym appears in data structures), and makes it clear that<br>
it is applicable beyond just the financial sector.<br>
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                                                       -- Mike<br>
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FROM: Openid-specs-fapi <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-fapi-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-fapi-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>><br>
ON BEHALF OF Nat Sakimura via Openid-specs-fapi<br>
SENT: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 8:37 AM<br>
TO: Financial API Working Group List<br>
<<a href="mailto:openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net</a>>; Financial API Working Group List<br>
<<a href="mailto:openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net</a>><br>
CC: Nat Sakimura <<a href="mailto:nat@sakimura.org" target="_blank">nat@sakimura.org</a>><br>
SUBJECT: Re: [Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI<br>
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It kind of works as it is a variation of "Carrier grade".<br>
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<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_grade" target="_blank">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_grade</a> [6]<br>
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Advantages of this name: :<br>
<br>
- It is descriptive.<br>
<br>
- It protects the investments on the acronym "FAPI".<br>
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Get Outlook for Android [7] <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 6:28 AM +0200, "Tatsuo Kudo via<br>
Openid-specs-fapi" <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#212121">My intention is that the “-grade” suffix implies a level of<br>
protection. Everybody can utilize the spec to achieve telco-grade,<br>
healthcare-grade etc. while it is originally based on requirements<br>
from financial services industry.<br>
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Tatsuo.<br>
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2018/05/16 13:03</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#212121">、</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#212121">Mike Schwartz via Openid-specs-fapi<br>
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The whole point of the name change is that the profile is not<br>
limited to finance. So does this accomplish that?<br>
<br>
- Mike<br>
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On 2018-05-15 23:00, Phil Hunt via Openid-specs-fapi wrote:<br>
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+1<br>
Name changes cause a lot of confusion. This opens the door but keeps<br>
the acronym.<br>
Phil<br>
On May 15, 2018, at 8:40 PM, Tatsuo Kudo via Openid-specs-fapi<br>
<<a href="mailto:openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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It might be late but how about:<br>
Financial-grade Access Protection Interoperability (FAPI)<br>
Tatsuo.<br>
2018/04/11 0:58</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#212121">、</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#212121">Phil Hunt via Openid-specs-fapi<br>
<<a href="mailto:openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net</a>></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"MS Gothic";color:#212121">のメール</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#212121">:<br>
I have concerns. The reason for this group was to address the legal<br>
and security requirements of a particular sector in efforts to get a<br>
global standard based on Connect.<br>
A mark of success is universal applicability, but a loss of focus<br>
would be of grave concern for me speaking as an individual.<br>
Phil<br>
On Apr 10, 2018, at 8:30 AM, Sarah Squire via Openid-specs-fapi<br>
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Hey Folks,<br>
At the last OpenID Foundation Board meeting, the board agreed that<br>
since FAPI is not limited to the financial sector and does not<br>
proscribe API designs, it should be renamed.<br>
The fundamental thing that differentiates the OpenID Foundation's<br>
OpenAPI working groups is that they focus on consumer-facing<br>
ecosystems as opposed to enterprise, so we could focus it in that<br>
direction.<br>
Instead of saying API, we could say something like resource or<br>
protected resource.<br>
How about<br>
Consumer Resource Protection (CRP)<br>
Delegated Resource Access for Consumer-facing Operators (DRACO)<br>
Delegated Protection of Consumer Resources (DPCR)<br>
Thoughts?<br>
Sarah<br>
PS I work for Ping Identity. Sending this from an old email address<br>
because of IPR/mailing list issues.<br>
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