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In support of Mike, - Acknowledging where this spec came from with “financial-grade” really ticks all the boxes for me. +1<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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FAPI is everywhere in the OB specs (obviously) and there would be a live ecosystem impact to change all references.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<b class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday, 16 May 2018 at 14:14<br class="">
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<b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="">And it tells people that it is a high security profile that is usable for Financial transactions and interoperable.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI</span></span><span class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class="">I really like Financial-grade API. It acknowledges the original use case, keeps the acronym (which will prevent breaking spec changes, since the acronym appears in data structures), and makes it
clear that it is applicable beyond just the financial sector.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=""> -- Mike</span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Openid-specs-fapi <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-fapi-bounces@lists.openid.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">openid-specs-fapi-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On
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<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, May 16, 2018 8:37 AM<br class="">
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<span class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">- It protects the investments on the acronym "FAPI".</span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="">My intention is that the “-grade” suffix implies a level of protection. Everybody can utilize the spec to achieve telco-grade, healthcare-grade etc. while it is originally based on requirements from financial services industry.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">The whole point of the name change is that the profile is not limited to finance. So does this accomplish that?<br class="">
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<span class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">It might be late but how about:<br class="">
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2018/04/11 0:58</span></span><span class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "MS Gothic";" class="">、</span></span><span class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">Phil Hunt via Openid-specs-fapi<br class="">
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I have concerns. The reason for this group was to address the legal<br class="">
and security requirements of a particular sector in efforts to get a<br class="">
global standard based on Connect.<br class="">
A mark of success is universal applicability, but a loss of focus<br class="">
would be of grave concern for me speaking as an individual.<br class="">
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On Apr 10, 2018, at 8:30 AM, Sarah Squire via Openid-specs-fapi<br class="">
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Hey Folks,<br class="">
At the last OpenID Foundation Board meeting, the board agreed that<br class="">
since FAPI is not limited to the financial sector and does not<br class="">
proscribe API designs, it should be renamed.<br class="">
The fundamental thing that differentiates the OpenID Foundation's<br class="">
OpenAPI working groups is that they focus on consumer-facing<br class="">
ecosystems as opposed to enterprise, so we could focus it in that<br class="">
direction.<br class="">
Instead of saying API, we could say something like resource or<br class="">
protected resource.<br class="">
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Consumer Resource Protection (CRP)<br class="">
Delegated Resource Access for Consumer-facing Operators (DRACO)<br class="">
Delegated Protection of Consumer Resources (DPCR)<br class="">
Thoughts?<br class="">
Sarah<br class="">
PS I work for Ping Identity. Sending this from an old email address<br class="">
because of IPR/mailing list issues.<br class="">
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