[Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI

martti pitkanen martti.pitkanen at aplcomp.fi
Thu May 17 13:56:42 UTC 2018


Agree 100%


Martti Pitkanen, APLcomp


On 05/17/2018 04:32 PM, Chris Michael via Openid-specs-fapi wrote:
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> ​Agree 100%
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> *From:* Mike Jones <Michael.Jones at microsoft.com>
> *Sent:* 17 May 2018 14:27
> *To:* Financial API Working Group List; Nat Sakimura
> *Cc:* Chris Michael
> *Subject:* RE: [Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI
>
> I much prefer “Financial-grade API” to “Financial-grade API Protection 
> Interoperable”.  The latter is convoluted and artificial, whereas the 
> former is simpler and natural.
>
> -- Mike
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> *From:* Openid-specs-fapi <openid-specs-fapi-bounces at lists.openid.net> 
> *On Behalf Of *Chris Michael via Openid-specs-fapi
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 17, 2018 2:03 PM
> *To:* Nat Sakimura <nat at sakimura.org>; Financial API Working Group 
> List <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>
> *Cc:* Chris Michael <Chris.Michael at openbanking.org.uk>
> *Subject:* Re: [Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI
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> I thought the idea was to keep as FAPI​ (Financial-grade API)
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> *From:*Nat Sakimura <nat at sakimura.org <mailto:nat at sakimura.org>>
> *Sent:* 17 May 2018 08:21
> *To:* Financial API Working Group List; Financial API Working Group List
> *Cc:* Chris Michael
> *Subject:* Re: [Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI
>
> So, Financial-grade API Protection Interoperable?
>
> Or Access instead of API?
>
> Considering that people probably searches with 'API' as a search term, 
> API seems to be a better option but I am open to both.
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> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 9:18 AM +0200, "Chris Michael via 
> Openid-specs-fapi" <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net 
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>     ​+1
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>     *Chris Michael*
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>     Dave Tonge via Openid-specs-fapi
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>     *Sent:* 16 May 2018 15:45
>     *To:* Financial API Working Group List
>     *Cc:* Dave Tonge
>     *Subject:* Re: [Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI
>
>     +1 from me also
>
>     On 16 May 2018 at 16:11, Brian Campbell via Openid-specs-fapi
>     <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net
>     <mailto:openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>> wrote:
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>         +1 to “financial-grade”
>
>         thanks Tatsuo
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>         On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 8:07 AM, Mike Schwartz via
>         Openid-specs-fapi <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net
>         <mailto:openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>> wrote:
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>             ok!
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>             On 2018-05-16 08:47, Ralph Bragg via Openid-specs-fapi wrote:
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>                 In support of Mike, - Acknowledging where this spec
>                 came from with
>                 “financial-grade” really ticks all the boxes for me. +1
>
>                 FAPI is everywhere in the OB specs (obviously) and
>                 there would be a
>                 live ecosystem impact to change all references.
>
>                 FROM: Openid-specs-fapi
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>                 on behalf of n-sakimura via Openid-specs-fapi
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>                 REPLY-TO: Financial API Working Group List
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>                 DATE: Wednesday, 16 May 2018 at 14:14
>                 TO: Financial API Working Group List
>                 <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net
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>                 CC: n-sakimura <n-sakimura at nri.co.jp
>                 <mailto:n-sakimura at nri.co.jp>>
>                 SUBJECT: Re: [Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI
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>                 <chair hat off>
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>                 And it tells people that it is a high security profile
>                 that is usable
>                 for Financial transactions and interoperable.
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>                 </chair hat off>
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>                 on behalf of Mike Jones via Openid-specs-fapi
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>                 SENT: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 12:32:06 PM
>                 TO: Financial API Working Group List
>                 CC: Mike Jones
>                 SUBJECT: Re: [Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI
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>                 I really like Financial-grade API.  It acknowledges
>                 the original use
>                 case, keeps the acronym (which will prevent breaking
>                 spec changes,
>                 since the acronym appears in data structures), and
>                 makes it clear that
>                 it is applicable beyond just the financial sector.
>
>                        -- Mike
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>                 ON BEHALF OF Nat Sakimura via Openid-specs-fapi
>                 SENT: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 8:37 AM
>                 TO: Financial API Working Group List
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>                 <mailto:openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>>;
>                 Financial API Working Group List
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>                 CC: Nat Sakimura <nat at sakimura.org
>                 <mailto:nat at sakimura.org>>
>                 SUBJECT: Re: [Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI
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>                 It kind of works as it is a variation of "Carrier grade".
>
>                 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_grade [6]
>
>                 Advantages of this name: :
>
>                 - It is descriptive.
>
>                 - It protects the investments on the acronym "FAPI".
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>                 Get Outlook for Android [7]
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>                 On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 6:28 AM +0200, "Tatsuo Kudo via
>                 Openid-specs-fapi" <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net
>                 <mailto:openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>> wrote:
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>                     My intention is that the “-grade” suffix implies a
>                     level of
>                     protection. Everybody can utilize the spec to
>                     achieve telco-grade,
>                     healthcare-grade etc. while it is originally based
>                     on requirements
>                     from financial services industry.
>
>                     Tatsuo.
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>                     2018/05/16 13:03、Mike Schwartz via Openid-specs-fapi
>                     <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net
>                     <mailto:openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>>のメール:
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>                     The whole point of the name change is that the
>                     profile is not
>                     limited to finance. So does this accomplish that?
>
>                     - Mike
>
>                     On 2018-05-15 23:00, Phil Hunt via
>                     Openid-specs-fapi wrote:
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>                     +1
>                     Name changes cause a lot of confusion. This opens
>                     the door but keeps
>                     the acronym.
>                     Phil
>                     On May 15, 2018, at 8:40 PM, Tatsuo Kudo via
>                     Openid-specs-fapi
>                     <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net
>                     <mailto:openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>> wrote:
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>                     It might be late but how about:
>                     Financial-grade Access Protection Interoperability
>                     (FAPI)
>                     Tatsuo.
>                     2018/04/11 0:58、Phil Hunt via Openid-specs-fapi
>                     <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net
>                     <mailto:openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>>のメール:
>                     I have concerns. The reason for this group was to
>                     address the legal
>                     and security requirements of a particular sector
>                     in efforts to get a
>                     global standard based on Connect.
>                     A mark of success is universal applicability, but
>                     a loss of focus
>                     would be of grave concern for me speaking as an
>                     individual.
>                     Phil
>                     On Apr 10, 2018, at 8:30 AM, Sarah Squire via
>                     Openid-specs-fapi
>                     <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net
>                     <mailto:openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>> wrote:
>                     Hey Folks,
>                     At the last OpenID Foundation Board meeting, the
>                     board agreed that
>                     since FAPI is not limited to the financial sector
>                     and does not
>                     proscribe API designs, it should be renamed.
>                     The fundamental thing that differentiates the
>                     OpenID Foundation's
>                     OpenAPI working groups is that they focus on
>                     consumer-facing
>                     ecosystems as opposed to enterprise, so we could
>                     focus it in that
>                     direction.
>                     Instead of saying API, we could say something like
>                     resource or
>                     protected resource.
>                     How about
>                     Consumer Resource Protection (CRP)
>                     Delegated Resource Access for Consumer-facing
>                     Operators (DRACO)
>                     Delegated Protection of Consumer Resources (DPCR)
>                     Thoughts?
>                     Sarah
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