[Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI

Tatsuo Kudo tatsuo.kudo at authlete.com
Thu May 17 11:32:32 UTC 2018


Either one is fine.  Tatsuo


2018年5月17日(木) 16:22 Nat Sakimura via Openid-specs-fapi <
openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>:

> So, Financial-grade API Protection Interoperable?
> Or Access instead of API?
>
> Considering that people probably searches with 'API' as a search term, API
> seems to be a better option but I am open to both.
>
> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
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> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 9:18 AM +0200, "Chris Michael via
> Openid-specs-fapi" <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>
> ​+1
>>
>>
>>
>> *Chris Michael*
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>> *From:* Openid-specs-fapi <openid-specs-fapi-bounces at lists.openid.net>
>> on behalf of Dave Tonge via Openid-specs-fapi <
>> openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>
>> *Sent:* 16 May 2018 15:45
>> *To:* Financial API Working Group List
>> *Cc:* Dave Tonge
>> *Subject:* Re: [Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI
>>
>> +1 from me also
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16 May 2018 at 16:11, Brian Campbell via Openid-specs-fapi <
>> openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 to “financial-grade”
>>>
>>> thanks Tatsuo
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 8:07 AM, Mike Schwartz via Openid-specs-fapi <
>>> openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> ok!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2018-05-16 08:47, Ralph Bragg via Openid-specs-fapi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In support of Mike, - Acknowledging where this spec came from with
>>>>> “financial-grade” really ticks all the boxes for me. +1
>>>>>
>>>>> FAPI is everywhere in the OB specs (obviously) and there would be a
>>>>> live ecosystem impact to change all references.
>>>>>
>>>>> FROM: Openid-specs-fapi <openid-specs-fapi-bounces at lists.openid.net>
>>>>> on behalf of n-sakimura via Openid-specs-fapi
>>>>> <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>
>>>>> REPLY-TO: Financial API Working Group List
>>>>> <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>
>>>>> DATE: Wednesday, 16 May 2018 at 14:14
>>>>> TO: Financial API Working Group List
>>>>> <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>
>>>>> CC: n-sakimura <n-sakimura at nri.co.jp>
>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI
>>>>>
>>>>> <chair hat off>
>>>>>
>>>>> And it tells people that it is a high security profile that is usable
>>>>> for Financial transactions and interoperable.
>>>>>
>>>>> </chair hat off>
>>>>>
>>>>> Outlook for iOS [5] を入手
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> FROM: Openid-specs-fapi <openid-specs-fapi-bounces at lists.openid.net>
>>>>> on behalf of Mike Jones via Openid-specs-fapi
>>>>> <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>
>>>>> SENT: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 12:32:06 PM
>>>>> TO: Financial API Working Group List
>>>>> CC: Mike Jones
>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI
>>>>>
>>>>> I really like Financial-grade API.  It acknowledges the original use
>>>>> case, keeps the acronym (which will prevent breaking spec changes,
>>>>> since the acronym appears in data structures), and makes it clear that
>>>>> it is applicable beyond just the financial sector.
>>>>>
>>>>>                                                        -- Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> FROM: Openid-specs-fapi <openid-specs-fapi-bounces at lists.openid.net>
>>>>> ON BEHALF OF Nat Sakimura via Openid-specs-fapi
>>>>> SENT: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 8:37 AM
>>>>> TO: Financial API Working Group List
>>>>> <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>; Financial API Working Group List
>>>>> <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>
>>>>> CC: Nat Sakimura <nat at sakimura.org>
>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI
>>>>>
>>>>> It kind of works as it is a variation of "Carrier grade".
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_grade [6]
>>>>>
>>>>> Advantages of this name: :
>>>>>
>>>>> - It is descriptive.
>>>>>
>>>>> - It protects the investments on the acronym "FAPI".
>>>>>
>>>>> Get Outlook for Android [7]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 6:28 AM +0200, "Tatsuo Kudo via
>>>>> Openid-specs-fapi" <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> My intention is that the “-grade” suffix implies a level of
>>>>>> protection. Everybody can utilize the spec to achieve telco-grade,
>>>>>> healthcare-grade etc. while it is originally based on requirements
>>>>>> from financial services industry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tatsuo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2018/05/16 13:03、Mike Schwartz via Openid-specs-fapi
>>>>>> <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>のメール:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The whole point of the name change is that the profile is not
>>>>>> limited to finance. So does this accomplish that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-05-15 23:00, Phil Hunt via Openid-specs-fapi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>> Name changes cause a lot of confusion. This opens the door but keeps
>>>>>> the acronym.
>>>>>> Phil
>>>>>> On May 15, 2018, at 8:40 PM, Tatsuo Kudo via Openid-specs-fapi
>>>>>> <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It might be late but how about:
>>>>>> Financial-grade Access Protection Interoperability (FAPI)
>>>>>> Tatsuo.
>>>>>> 2018/04/11 0:58、Phil Hunt via Openid-specs-fapi
>>>>>> <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>のメール:
>>>>>> I have concerns. The reason for this group was to address the legal
>>>>>> and security requirements of a particular sector in efforts to get a
>>>>>> global standard based on Connect.
>>>>>> A mark of success is universal applicability, but a loss of focus
>>>>>> would be of grave concern for me speaking as an individual.
>>>>>> Phil
>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 8:30 AM, Sarah Squire via Openid-specs-fapi
>>>>>> <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Hey Folks,
>>>>>> At the last OpenID Foundation Board meeting, the board agreed that
>>>>>> since FAPI is not limited to the financial sector and does not
>>>>>> proscribe API designs, it should be renamed.
>>>>>> The fundamental thing that differentiates the OpenID Foundation's
>>>>>> OpenAPI working groups is that they focus on consumer-facing
>>>>>> ecosystems as opposed to enterprise, so we could focus it in that
>>>>>> direction.
>>>>>> Instead of saying API, we could say something like resource or
>>>>>> protected resource.
>>>>>> How about
>>>>>> Consumer Resource Protection (CRP)
>>>>>> Delegated Resource Access for Consumer-facing Operators (DRACO)
>>>>>> Delegated Protection of Consumer Resources (DPCR)
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>> Sarah
>>>>>> PS I work for Ping Identity. Sending this from an old email address
>>>>>> because of IPR/mailing list issues.
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