[Openid-specs-fapi] FAPI support for Bookings, Reservations, Etc. ?

Anders Rundgren anders.rundgren.net at gmail.com
Mon Nov 13 06:27:51 UTC 2017

On 2017-11-12 04:14, Tom Jones wrote:
> i am not sure about the eu, but in the us the ach payment method is not constrained by any dollar limit.
> ANSI X9.59 addressed limits and user consent. AFAICT there is no protection for users in UK open banking or FAPI.
> It's all banks all the way down.
> Now if we could find a way to make it a claim, then OpenID can handle it.

I'm not sure that this is really what I'm asking for, it is rather a comment/reaction to my somewhat heretic claim that "Banking" and "Consumer Payments" are quite different and probably do not gain by being dealt by a generic payment initiation API and associated security model.

A "visual" of that could be taking a peek at these URL's
which address the same use case.

As far as I can tell there is no wallet concept in the FAPI, STET or OpenBanking schemes, whereas the Saturn architecture does away with the PISP altogether since it doesn't depend on direct account access (Banking <<>> Consumer Payments).

> Peace ..tom

> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 10:28 PM, Anders Rundgren via Openid-specs-fapi <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net <mailto:openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>> wrote:
>     Dear payment aficionados,
>      From what I can deduct, FAPI currently supports a single payment method ("transfer"):
>     https://bitbucket.org/openid/fapi/src/master/Financial_API_WD_005.md?fileviewer=file-view-default <https://bitbucket.org/openid/fapi/src/master/Financial_API_WD_005.md?fileviewer=file-view-default>
>     After going a bit deeper into the matter including a brief study of the STET PSD2 API (https://www.stet.eu/en/news/news1/stet-psd2-api-is-now-available.html <https://www.stet.eu/en/news/news1/stet-psd2-api-is-now-available.html>), it seems that FAPI and its "cousins" indeed properly address payments when performed in the context of "Banking", but somewhat less so for "ordinary" payment operations like performed at a POS terminal or automated gas station.
>     Comments?
>     Thanx,
>     Anders Rundgren
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