[OpenID-Specs-eKYC-IDA] Salutation as a claim
Marcos Sanz
sanz at denic.de
Thu Jan 30 08:51:19 UTC 2020
> Passports do not give a salutation, but do give gender and age - which
> allow the correct salutation to be derived in many languages.
Agree.
> Just to complicate matters, have you noticed how some 'woke' individuals
> specify their preferred pronoun when introducing themselves So a
> transgender man (formerly a woman) might specify 'he', even when his
> passport shows female, while another individual might prefer to be vague
> about gender and be referred to as 'they', despite the apparent mistake
> between singular and plural. But this is all perhaps a step too far.
Yes, I noticed. But I don't understand if you are trying to imply with
it that "salutation" is something so individual, original and
underivable that should be stored as a claim at your IdP/Claims
Provider, regardless of whether it can be verified/attested or not.
Best,
Marcos
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>> Hi all,
>> while talking about (or, better said, "only hearing")
>> https://bitbucket.org/openid/ekyc-ida/issues/1088/register-new-claims-in-oauth-jwt-claims
>> in today's call, the claim "salutation" got my attention.
>> I know it has been there from the beginning. I have been thinking
>> about it and am not sure why this should a claim in the sense of a
>> proved/verified/assured property of an natural person. Salutation
>> might depend on the gender, the language, the social context... even
>> the time of the day! I don't think we'll find an evidence document
>> proving a salutation.
>> I've seen lots of databases storing the salutation along with the
>> personal data of a person in order to make easy to write personalized
>> emails/letters, but that's completely another context. I'd love to
>> hear your thoughts about this before I open any issue in the tracker.
>> Best,
>> Marcos
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