[OIDFSC] Refreshing the OpenID specs council

Dick Hardt dick.hardt at gmail.com
Wed May 26 05:14:50 UTC 2010


Breno looks to have more breadth of experience, so I would give Breno a slight edge. They both work at Google, so no difference there. :)

On 2010-05-25, at 7:28 PM, John Bradley wrote:

> I am helping Nat but he is the editor.   The closest I have come was the ICAM profile, but that is not a openID spec.
> 
> FWIW I think Joseph or Breno would do a fine job.  A slight preference for Breno because he is a fellow south American:)
> 
> John B.
> On 2010-05-25, at 8:42 PM, Mike Jones wrote:
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>> That’s my understanding of the process as well, David.  It sounds like we may already have consensus on Nat.  I hope we choose the remaining member by consensus as well.  I would personally be fine with either Breno or Joseph for the remaining member.  What do others think?
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>> For reference, the relevant definitions from the process doc are:
>> 1.5  “Eligible Editors” means, as determined on a given date, all Editors from current WGs and all other persons who: (a) were WG Editors at any time in the two years before such date; (b) are alive and have provided and maintained updated contact information with the OpenID Foundation; and (c) elect to participate in selection of the Specifications Council after at least seven days’ email notice.
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>> 1.8  “Specifications Council” means a group comprised of: (a) two representatives selected by the Board; and (b) five representatives selected by the Eligible Editors.  The Board may select from among the current Board members (or other appropriate persons, as determined by the Board), and the Eligible Editors may select from among themselves (or other appropriate persons, as the Eligible Editors determine).
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>> Here’s a start at an informal list of who the eligible editors are that should select the remaining specs council member, should we not reach consensus without a vote or more formal process.
>> ·         From PAPE:  David Recordon and I did most of the actual editing by my recollection, with Johnny Bufu and Jonathan Daugherty also listed as editors.
>> ·         From UI:  Allen Tom, Breno de Medeiros
>> ·         From CX:  Nat Sakimura
>> ·         From Artifact: Nat Sakimura.  Is John Bradley also an editor too?  It’s hard to tell from the spec draft.
>> ·         From Hybrid:  Dirk Balfanz, Breno de Medeiros, David Recordon, Joseph Smarr, Allen Tom
>> ·         From AX 1.1:  Allen Tom, Breno de Medeiros
>> I may have missed specs and editors, and if so, others should speak up.
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>> I believe that the other specs are all older than two years ago and/or don’t have current working groups, although I wouldn’t be opposed to including input from editors of the older specs as part of a consensus-based selection process.
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>>                                                                 -- Mike
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>> P.S.  I added Jonathan Daugherty and John Bradley to this thread, since they appear to be eligible editors.
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>> From: David Recordon [mailto:recordond at gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 9:43 AM
>> To: Mike Jones
>> Cc: Allen Tom; Johnny Bufu; openid-specs-council at lists.openid.net; Josh Hoyt; Dick Hardt; Breno de Medeiros; Nat Sakimura; Joseph Smarr
>> Subject: Re: Refreshing the OpenID specs council
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>> Given that the UX Extension was never finalized, I think everyone is on a level playing field.
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>> The Specs Council is made up of two people appointed by the Board and five by the "Eligible Editors". The Editors are supposed to select among themselves, but can appoint other appropriate people as well.
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>> I'd recommend adding Nat and Joseph given that the Hybrid extension has had more deployment than UX and his experience editing other specifications such as Portable Contacts.
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>> --David
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>> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Mike Jones <Michael.Jones at microsoft.com> wrote:
>> At this point, we have affirmative responses from all but Brad and Josh.  I propose that we now invite Breno and Nat to join the council to replace Brad and Josh.
>>  
>> I agree that Dirk, Joseph, and John all bring strong qualifications, but to my knowledge, none have served as OpenID specification editors, whereas Breno and Nat have.
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>> Are there any objections to now inviting them to join?
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>>                                                                 -- Mike
>>  
>> From: openid-specs-council-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:openid-specs-council-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Allen Tom
>> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 6:05 PM
>> To: David Recordon; Mike Jones
>> Cc: Johnny Bufu; Brad Fitzpatrick; openid-specs-council at lists.openid.net; Josh Hoyt; Dick Hardt
>> Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] Refreshing the OpenID specs council
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>> Yes, I’d like to remain active on the specs council.
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>> In addition to Breno and Nat, I also think that Dirk Balfanz, Joseph Smarr, and John Bradley would also be really good additions.
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>> Allen
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>> On 5/23/10 5:49 PM, "David Recordon" <recordond at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Yes, I will remain active.
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>> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Dick Hardt <dick.hardt at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yes, I will remain active on the specs council.
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>> On 2010-05-23, at 1:04 PM, Mike Jones wrote:
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>> As several OpenID working groups are being proposed, it would be good to ensure that the OpenID specifications council is populated with people who are currently active in specification development and have the appropriate expertise.  Per this note <http://lists.openid.net/pipermail/openid-board/2008-June/002989.html> , the council currently consists of these people, who are subscribed to the openid-specs-council list with these addresses:
>>   - Allen Tom  atom at yahoo-inc.com <http://yahoo-inc.com> 
>>   - Brad Fitzpatrick  brad at danga.com <http://danga.com> 
>>   - David Recordon  recordond at gmail.com <http://gmail.com> 
>>   - Johnny Bufu  johnny.bufu at gmail.com <http://gmail.com> 
>>   - Josh Hoyt  josh at janrain.com <http://janrain.com> 
>>   - Dick Hardt  dick.hardt at gmail.com <http://gmail.com> 
>>   - Mike Jones  michael.jones at microsoft.com <http://microsoft.com> 
>>  
>> Can each of you who plan to remain active on the specifications council PLEASE RESPOND affirmatively to this note in the next few days?  Otherwise, we should offer the positions to other spec editors who will be active.  Nat Sakimura is certainly one person who comes to mind, as editor of the CX and Artifact Binding specifications, and also Breno de Medeiros, who is an editor for the User Interface Extension.
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>> To update your subscription to the openid-specs-council list, go to http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs-council.
>>  
>>                                                             Thanks,
>>                                                             -- Mike
>>  
>> As a reminder of the role of the specifications council, here are some of the relevant passages from the OpenID Process document <http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2010/01/OpenID_Process_Document_December_2009_Final_Approved.pdf> :
>>  
>> 1.4  “Editor(s)” means, for a particular Specification to be developed by a particular WG, the individual Contributor(s) selected to coordinate development of, and transcription of the work of the WG for, such Specification, as well as (together with any other Editors for that WG) to administer WG operation.
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>> 1.5  “Eligible Editors” means, as determined on a given date, all Editors from current WGs and all other persons who: (a) were WG Editors at any time in the two years before such date; (b) are alive and have provided and maintained updated contact information with the OpenID Foundation; and (c) elect to participate in selection of the Specifications Council after at least seven days’ email notice.
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>> 1.6  “Specifications Council” means a group comprised of: (a) two representatives selected by the Board; and (b) five representatives selected by the Eligible Editors.  The Board may select from among the current Board members (or other appropriate persons, as determined by the Board), and the Eligible Editors may select from among themselves (or other appropriate persons, as the Eligible Editors determine).
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>> 2  Specifications Council.  The initial Specifications Council, as of the date these Processes are adopted, will be comprised of two persons selected by the Board and five persons selected by the then-current OpenID Authentication 2.0 Specification Editors.  The members of the Specifications Council will serve for two year terms (although one of the initial members selected by the Board and two of the initial members selected by the Editors of the OpenID Authentication 2.0 Specification will serve for only a one year term – as selected by consensus of the Specifications Council – so that Specifications Council membership terms may be staggered).  There are no “term limits” for Specifications Council membership, and the Board or Eligible Editors, as applicable, may re-select the same persons to serve for more than one term (consecutive or otherwise). In the event that a Specifications Council member failed to participate in the discussion of two consecutive working group proposals, the member will be deemed to have resigned, and new specifications council members who are committed to participating in the process will be appointed to replace the member.
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>> 4.2  Review.  The Specifications Council will review each proposal within 15 days after receipt and promptly provide notice to specs at openid.net of its recommendation to either accept or reject it, together with a brief statement of the rationale for its recommendation (including any findings or opinions by the Specifications Council regarding the criteria for rejection in the following clauses (a)-(d). If a proposal is rejected, it may be modified and resubmitted.  The reasons for rejection will be limited to:
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>> (a)    an incomplete Proposal (i.e., failure to comply with §4.1);
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>> (b)    a determination that the proposal contravenes the OpenID community’s purpose;
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>> (c)     a determination that the proposed WG does not have sufficient support to succeed or to deliver proposed deliverables within projected completion dates; or
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>> (d)    a  determination that the proposal is likely to cause legal liability for the OIDF or others.
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>> If no recommendation was issued within 15 days after receipt, the Proposal is deemed to be accepted.
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>> When the Specifications Council rejects the proposal, the Proposers may submit the Proposal to a vote of the OIDF membership, in accordance with the voting procedures in §3. When the vote passes, the proposal is deemed to be accepted.  
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