[OIDFSC] OpenID v.Next Discovery Working Group Proposal

[Nat]

Yes. Let us go.

=nat @ Mountain View via iPhone

On 2010/05/22, at 14:11, John Bradley <ve7jtb at ve7jtb.com> wrote:

> Agreed,
>
> Once the charter is approved lets get this party started.
>
> John B.
> On 2010-05-21, at 7:58 PM, Breno de Medeiros wrote:
>
>> Agreed.
>>
>> While it's clear that other WGs might have to coordinate with the
>> discovery WG, I think there's value in having a separate discovery WG
>> for the reasons you mention.
>>
>> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 19:28, Allen Tom <atom at yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Regarding all the various WG proposals – at least with the Disco 
>>> very WG, I
>>> think there’s universal consensus that the existing OpenID 2.0 d 
>>> iscovery
>>> mechanism is very deficient and  must be revised or even completely
>>> replaced. Yadis is obsolete and overly complex, and there’s been 
>>>  a lot of
>>> innovation in Discovery after OpenID 2.0 was finalized.
>>>
>>> The authors of the OpenID User Interface extension found several  
>>> cases where
>>> OpenID discovery needed to be updated, yet extending the existing  
>>> 2.0
>>> discovery did not quite work. (RP/OP Logos/Metadata, publishing  
>>> which UI
>>> modes and display languages were supported, support for browser  
>>> assistants,
>>> etc)
>>>
>>> The Discovery WG charter is well defined and  focused – the outp 
>>> ut of the WG
>>> is expected to be usable for future iterations of OpenID. Given  
>>> that the
>>> community wants to quickly advance OpenID, my hope is that the  
>>> future
>>> discovery work can be developed in parallel and kept in sync with  
>>> the other
>>> initiatives.
>>>
>>> Allen
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/21/10 6:05 PM, "Allen Tom" <atom at yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Per the OpenID Foundation IPR policies and procedures, this note  
>>> formally
>>> proposes the formation of a new OpenID working group.  The charter  
>>> and
>>> background information for the proposed group are as follows.
>>>
>>> (a)  Charter.
>>> (i)       WG name:  OpenID v.Next Discovery.
>>> (ii)      Purpose: Produce a discovery specification or family of  
>>> discovery
>>> specifications for OpenID v.Next that address the limitations and  
>>> drawbacks
>>> present in the OpenID 2.0 discovery facilities that limit OpenID’s
>>> applicability, adoption, usability, privacy, and security.   
>>> Specific goals
>>> are:
>>> ·     enable discovery for and normalization of OpenID identifiers,
>>> including those utilizing e-mail address syntax and those that are  
>>> URLs,
>>>
>>> ·     enable discovery of features supported by OpenID v.Next Op 
>>> enID
>>> Providers and Relying Parties,
>>>
>>> ·     enable discovery of attributes about OpenID v.Next OPs and 
>>>  RPs,
>>> including, but not limited to visual logos and human-readable site  
>>> names,
>>>
>>> ·     enable discovery supporting a spectrum of clients, includi 
>>> ng passive
>>> clients per current usage, thin active clients, and active clients  
>>> with OP
>>> functionality,
>>>
>>> ·     enable discovery supporting authentication to and use of a 
>>> ttributes by
>>> non-browser applications,
>>>
>>> ·     enable discovery of public keys,
>>>
>>> ·     enable potential mechanisms for discovering context-releva 
>>> nt OpenID
>>> providers,
>>>
>>> ·     seamlessly integrate with and complement the other OpenID  
>>> v.Next
>>> specifications.
>>>
>>>           Compatibility with OpenID 2.0 is an explicit non-goal  
>>> for this
>>> work.
>>> (iii)     Scope: Produce a next generation OpenID discovery  
>>> specification or
>>> specifications, consistent with the purpose statement.
>>> (iv)     Proposed List of Specifications:  OpenID v.Next Discovery  
>>> and
>>> possibly related specifications.
>>> (v)      Anticipated audience or users of the work:  Implementers  
>>> of OpenID
>>> Providers, Relying Parties, Active Clients, and non-browser  
>>> applications
>>> utilizing OpenID.
>>> (vi)     Language in which the WG will conduct business:  English.
>>> (vii)    Method of work:  E-mail discussions on the working group  
>>> mailing
>>> list, working group conference calls, and face-to-face meetings at  
>>> the
>>> Internet Identity Workshop and OpenID summits.
>>> (viii)   Basis for determining when the work of the WG is  
>>> completed:  Work
>>> will not be deemed to be complete until there is a consensus that  
>>> the
>>> resulting protocol specification or family of specifications  
>>> fulfills the
>>> working group goals.  Additional proposed changes beyond that  
>>> initial
>>> consensus will be evaluated on the basis of whether they increase or
>>> decrease consensus within the working group.  The work will be  
>>> completed
>>> once it is apparent that maximal consensus on the draft has been  
>>> achieved,
>>> consistent with the purpose and scope.
>>> (b)  Background Information.
>>> (i)       Related work being done in other WGs or organizations:   
>>> OpenID
>>> Authentication 2.0 and related specifications, including Yadis  
>>> 1.0.  OAuth
>>> and OAuth 2.0.  XRDS, XRD, host-meta, Web Linking, XAuth, LRDD, and
>>> WebFinger.
>>> (ii)      Proposers:
>>> Allen Tom, atom at yahoo-inc.com, Yahoo! (co-chair)
>>> Michael B. Jones, mbj at microsoft.com, Microsoft (co-chair)
>>> John Bradley, ve7jtb at ve7jtb.com, independent
>>> Dick Hardt, dick.hardt at gmail.com, independent
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> --Breno
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