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<p class="MsoNormal">Spec Call Notes 29-Oct-18<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Nat Sakimura<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">John Bradley<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Bjorn Hjelm<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Brian Campbell<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Edmund Jay<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Rich Levinson<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Mike Jones<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Agenda<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Editor's report for Errata and Logout<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Open Issues<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Report from IIW<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Report from IIW<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat asked Mike to give a report from the Internet Identity Workshop (IIW)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Torsten presented verified claims JWT proposal<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> There was strong interest in standards in this area<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Expect a proposal from Torsten soon<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike believes that this work belongs in the Connect working group<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat has heard interest in this capability from European banks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Kim Cameron is interested in being able to request aggregated claims from a particular issuer<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The FastFed working group held a 3-hour Thursday afternoon<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Darin McAdams updated FastFed draft to focus on Connect and not SAML<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Attendees included Chuck Mortimore, Karl McGuiness, Dick Hardt, Darin, ADT, Googlers, and Mike Jones<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Chuck advocated starting with "brown field" scenarios<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Converting a small number of username/password logins to an enterprise-wide federation<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> These result from viral adoption of products like Slack or Teams<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Others thought that "green field" - enabling federation from day 1 - is also important<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Dick Hardt should be sending notes to the FastFed mailing list<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Roland Hedberg described updates he and Andreas Solberg made to the OpenID Connect Federation draft<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Now every entity has an entity descriptor - previously RPs didn't<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Added the ability to use JWT client IDs without pre-registration<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Continuing to use syntax defined by Discovery and Dynamic Client Registration<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> People are highly encouraged to review draft 5 at https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-federation-1_0-05.html<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Interest in RISC<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Some large companies have production RISC endpoints now<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> These are based on the RISC Implementer's Drafts<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike gave an Introduction to OpenID Connect "101" talk<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> It was well attended<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Among others there were attendees from the banking and R&E sectors<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Editor's report for Errata and Logout<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike plans to focus on completing the Errata and logout spec edits after IETF<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> There are some open issues that need to be decided both for Errata and for some of the logout specs<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Open Issues<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issues?status=new&status=open<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> #1052 make clear that nonce is always required for Hybrid flows<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike and Brian spoke to this<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> A nonce request parameter may not be strictly necessary for the code+token response type<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Both agreed that reasonable people could interpret this differently for code+token<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Brian made the case that we shouldn't introduce breaking changes via errata<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike pointed out that this change would probably require removing this particular test from the certification suite for code+token<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike will write up this possibility in the issue for review<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> #1032 rp-initiated logout - proposal for client_id parameter<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike asked what the security implications are of passing the client_id a non-tamper-resistant manner<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> We will discuss this on the next European-friendly call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Next Call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> We will keep the Thursday call despite it being IETF week<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> It will be at 9pm in Bangkok<o:p></o:p></p>
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