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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Wouldn’t/couldn’t that be part of the user consent for a fixed scema?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> John Bradley [mailto:ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Anthony Nadalin<br>
<b>Cc:</b> openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openid-specs-ab] Lite Draft 8<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes but the question is how you ask for authorization.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If there is only one scope then you can't ask for a subset. At least Facebook dosen't want to give email by default. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I suspect that you are not arguing agains privacy, or consent. So perhaps I am not understanding the question.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Are you asking for a single scope called openid that provides a id_token for the session info and an access token scoped for all of the users available attributes?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The current proposal is 4 scopes so that a RP just wanting to do SSO doesn't need to ask for permission to get the users name.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">openID = User ID<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">email = email<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">address = address<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">profile = all remaining default attributes.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think for interoperability we have to say something about the scopes for the user-info endpoint.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">John<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2011-08-17, at 1:28 PM, Anthony Nadalin wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">So why would you have to give back all the information? You get back all or any portion that you are authorized to access</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">John
Bradley <a href="mailto:[mailto:ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com]">[mailto:ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com]</a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Anthony Nadalin<br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Openid-specs-ab] Lite Draft 8</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From a privacy point of view giving all of the information in the user-info endpoint all the time with only a single scope is not ideal. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Mike wanted to do that but have additional negative scope so that you could say you don't want things, but have the default be the common case. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This still requires defining multiple scopes.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We could just make openid the scope for the id_token. However that makes interoperability for the user-info endpoint worse than AX if that is possible.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I wouldn't want to get rid of nonce or state for security reasons. We could make those required for the profile and ditch prompt and display.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Other opinions?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2011-08-16, at 7:03 PM, Anthony Nadalin wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Why is there any scope beyond “openid”, is this spec going to be continually updated whenever a new scope is added/changed, seems like a bad idea to have additional scopes in the spec</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Why have optional parameters, this should be basic (code and go)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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